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USSUBCOM: Unknown Contacts
August 30, 2017
7:26 pm
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magonia17
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We have all heard of the term UFO but almost nothing is known or released officially concerning unknowns detected by sonar under our owns which over a large percentage of this world.

So I began my question to see if any official information could be released. I filed a FOIA request to the Chief of Naval Operations, Washington DC. for records pertaining to known/unknown contacts within the territorial waters of the United States for a period of 30 days. The request was transferred to the Submarine Force Pacific Fleet COMSUBPAC.

The Commander of COMSUBPAC responded via letter dated 13 July 2017 stating: " The Department of Defense has determined the existence of non existence of records, which would reveal a connection or interest in the matters set forth in your request, is classified......the Department of Defense neither confirms or denies that such records may or may not exist..." So my request denied. So I appealed it, and my appeal went to the Judge Advocate General, Washington Naval Yard. A response was swift, from the Director of JAG.

The missive dated August 22 2017 stated that COMSUBPAC response was termed a "Glomar" response from a court case pertaining to the CIA's classified project. Further they stated it would could harm if they answered by request, and that the information if it existed would fall under the exemption "(b)(1)" which means that the information is properly and currently classified in the interests of national defense. If potential responsive information qualifies as exemption (b)(1) there is "no discretion" regarding its release. Further they stated the "request for sonar contacts data related to military operations if it exists, fits squarely within this category of information that could cause serious damage to national security."

So it seems that unknowns under the ocean are classifiable the fact they have information on such contacts is a secret within it self.....nothing to unknowns in the ocean, think again.

September 29, 2017
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Interesting. We have a very deep water channel off the coast of southern California as you travel to the Channel Islands (Santa Catalina Island) just off the coast of Long Beach (south of Los Angeles). There are constant sightings by tourists and fisherman of unidentified craft entering and leaving the sea in this area. One of the Channel Islands (San Clemente Island), houses a classified naval base. 

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