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WWYD Peace Flotilla attempts to bring relief to Gaza
May 27, 2010
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WWYD if you were the US President? A international peace flotilla with relief supplies is heading for Gaza and the Isrealis are preparing to arrest everyone in it, and probably violently assault the ships.
http://www.commondreams.org/vi.....10/05/27-1

I for one would put US warships on convoy escort duty to protect the flotilla in and out Gaza against the Isrealis with clear publically broiadcast orders that if the Israelis attempt to board ram or fire on the relief fleet the US Navy will retalliate in the convoy's defense. (this my hawk side speaking). Why because I'm sick of the Israeli government saying it'll do something and then not doing it, they talk peace and then continue on with genocidal business as usual and expect the US to turn a blind eye. Sorry Isreal but its about time the US showed some REAL backbone on human rights.

May 31, 2010
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10 people killed in flotilla killed by Israeli Raid, several commandoes injured.

Israel is claiming the commandoes were attacked with spiked clubs and pipes, also claiming flotilla had ties to terrorist organizations and allegedly finding weapons on board.

However the Audrey Bomse of the Free Gaza movement says there were no weapons on board, and that the Israelis started firing from helicopters first. This can be seen & heard in the live broadcast from INTERNATIONAL WATERS and even after the white flag is raized by the flotilla; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ohzaiJXBdU

if it is factual evidence in the Israeli forces any than any future flotillas must have inspectors aboard and be escorted by a world recognized military to prevent weapons smuggling and to prevent Israeli incursions IMHO The Israeli position of being attacked may be plausible since more than one boat was raided and we only have footage from one boat, and captains announcement says to stop resistence.
However as stated the ships were weapons inspected by the before leaving port.

political fallout is now occuring.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/mid.....196585.stm

May 31, 2010
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May 31, 2010
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I saw this on my facebook newsfeed. This should not come to a shock to anyone who knows the apartheid tendencies of Zionist Israel. They are relentless in their use of force and this is testimony to that. Any person who had any delusions about Israel should view this action in Gaza rationally and ask: Why do we continue to blindly support a regime who is not interested in garnering a positive relationship with the Arab community and more-so, the international community? Why are they so anti-humanitarian? This massacre should do more than spark "shock" from Ban Ki Moon. It should spark worldwide action- and Turkey has taken steps in the right direction in dealing with this ordeal, condemning and still sending ships.

To call the IDF Israeli DEFENSE Forces would be nice. They should instead be called the IOF- Israeli Offense Forces.

Will Israel be brought to count for its crimes against humanity?

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May 31, 2010
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Was there weapons on the ship, and why did this ship resist while the others allowed them to search?

May 31, 2010
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"greeney2" wrote: Was there weapons on the ship, and why did this ship resist while the others allowed them to search?

Not the point.

They where in international waters.

(( This is a war crime. )) 😀

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/

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May 31, 2010
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As far as all the parties are concerned, that boat left Turkey (a major Israeli ally) and disembarked on a humanitarian mission. The ship was carrying humanitarian aid (about 10,000 tonnes) because of Israel's economic blockade. In any case, the reason why these people resisted draconian Israeli security forces was because they are pro-Palestinian solidarity and refuse to be subjected to inspection with machine guns.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-E ... tic-crisis

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May 31, 2010
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Greeney
The Israelis assault these ships because of what they call "political provocation", they did it last year to Cynthia McKinney's flotilla as well, only last time they 'stopped' at mearly ramming flotilla ships until they were sufficiently damaged to be forced into port.

If soldiers storm a ship resistence is to be expected, so I call that plausible, I've been at peace rallies where it was hard to hold my tongue against all the insults thrown against the rally, its very hard not to retalliate when violence like the police and the military use is used against oneself. In situation where the forces involved are already bitter enemies its even harder. I suspect there were probably a few people with people grudges against the IDF to start with aboards the ships.

Were there weapons? I think we must rely on Turkish authorities to confirm their inspectors found nothing before we accept the IDFs claim.

IMO the organizers of the Flotilla probably did everything they could to make sure no weapons or suspect materials would be onboard because they knew they would be intercepted as usual and hauled into an Israeli port. I hypothesize they were hoping to get through the ordeal with typical bullying assaults by the IDF as usual, and use it as more PR to help innocent Palestinians (I'm sure the organizers did notwant to help the murderous criminals that are committing violence on both sides.) undergoing the siege.

So what this comes down to is "political provocation" but its not Hamas or the Palestinians being provoked but the IDF. And because Israel could not stand by and allow the Flotilla to victory, its government decided the bad PR from the assault was going to be easier to handle than looking weak. Typical hawk behavoir.

June 1, 2010
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As many as 70 wounded in the assault
http://censored-news.blogspot.com/2010/ ... tilla.html
note the hypothesis that this constitutes piracy, if if the attack wasn't state sponsored it would be: attacked, ship seized, and shipment confiscated (with non of the aid going to Palestinine post attack)

More news
http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-forc ... kness.html

US Civilian wounded while protesting the raid
http://palsolidarity.org/2010/05/12604/

Remided of Rachael Corrie yet? Because if you aren't, you will be when in the end the US Government does nothing in response, except a few soundbites.... The USA has the backbone of a chocolate eclair when it comes to certain countries dictating its responses.

June 1, 2010
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"rath" wrote: They where in international waters.

Irrelevant.

SECTION V : NEUTRAL MERCHANT VESSELS AND CIVIL AIRCRAFT

Neutral merchant vessels

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/385ec082b50 ... 1f002d49ce

They were trying to push their way through a blockade.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

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