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Let's Talk Westerns
October 7, 2017
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My favorite western TV show is "Have Gun Will Travel".  I have a secret crush on Paladin.  Not the actor himself, but the character he plays.  He is a complete gentleman, but he isn't afraid to be a man either.  I wish they made men like that today.  He'd rather use his intellect over his gun, but he will use the gun when necessary.

I like "The Rifleman" too.  At the end of the show they try to bring out a moral of the story.  The relationship Lucas has with is son Mark is beautiful.  It's wholesome.

They just don't make shows like this anymore.  Modern shows aren't wholesome at all.  They're either all about murder or sex or both.  All the comedies are about sex.  The serious shows are either based in hospitals or cop shows.  None of this is even entertaining to me.

Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen... - Zbigniew Brezhinsky

October 8, 2017
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I'm glad you made this subject, Johns Mom and I are big fans of the westerns.  Love the western channels.  I use to love Have Gun Will Travel to, I saw Richard Boone one time walking near a place I worked in the 70's. My wife when to High School with Chuck Connors son, and he is buried in the San Fernando mission cemetery, where her  grandparents are. Richey Valens, and Bob Hope also their. 

I love the Rifleman, we watch it daily, as a kid made a play rifle into a rifleman one. The said the Rifleman in the day was considered a very violent show, many were directed by Sam Peckinpaw. Lucas killed a lot of people on the showConfused. Also Gunsmoke was under fire for violence, one little tidbit is the opening scene shootout. some are only one shot, some are 2 shots. They were under pressure to tone down the violence, so around the Viet Nam war era 1967 or so, got rid of the shoot out, and went to Mr. Dillon galloping his horse over the prairie.

We love all the old westerns back to the early 30's John Wayne's, Buck Henry, Gene Autry, and Hoppy.

We live not far from the old movie ranches. I grew up as a Lone Ranger and Roy Rogers kid. I met Mr. Clayton Moore, who was our neighbors good friend. My wife and I learned that the famed "Lone Ranger Rock" was on the old movie ranch used to film thousands of westerns, called the Iverson ranch on Santa Susana pass. The famed Amtrack train derailment in Chatsworth only 1/4 mile away. It is right next to the Manson famed Spawn ranch. So one day we set out to go find the Lone Ranger Rock, and we found it. The very rock Clayton Moore does the opening, where he runs Silver to it, rears him up by the rock, then runs down the hill after. It is now set in a community of condos, but all the area is open to the public to see. The long run Silver does to the rock, and the downhill trail is over grown but you can recognize it, and the rocks are a park where you can hike. Most the rocks are named and were in many movies, westerns and sci fi.  The Lone Ranger rock is in the main entrance, and you can see it from the car. It is only a few hundred feet to walk to it.  I took pictures of it and it is now my main Facebook page picture. never did I imagine as a kid in Kenmore, New York I would someday go find that very rock, I watched in the Lone Ranger. Lone Ranger started in 1950, I was 3 years old, ran until 1956.  

October 11, 2017
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It's strange in this modern era, to think of those old westerns as violent.  Compared to today's shows, the westerns are wholesome.  The good guys are reluctant to draw their guns and only draw when drawn upon.  Often the show points out morals.  They show forgiveness.  If a person robbed a bank, did their time and wants to start over, they're forgiven by the good guys.  

One episode of Have Gun Will Travel a guy who worked at the bank decided to rob it and leave town.  On his way out of town, he had a change of heart when he ran into a single woman with a small baby.  He decided he wanted to settle down with her, give the money back and keep his job.  Paladin got involved and helped him break back into the bank and return the money.  Nothing is ever really black and white, but there is morality there.  He made a mistake and wanted to undo it before it was too late.

I've never thought about finding the places where they were filmed.  I just figured most of it was in studio somewhere.  But, that's cool that you've seen the locations.

I've wanted to try to place the horses.  To see which horse was used it two or more different western, lol.  Impossible, I know.

When I was a kid, Lone Ranger reruns were on.  My father loved them too.  That and Alias Smith and Jones.  

Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen... - Zbigniew Brezhinsky

October 11, 2017
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You can search for a site that  lists many of the famous horses. Their was more tha one "Silver". One of them was very temperamental, if you watch many episode can see Silver nipping and biting "scout", Tonto's horse. Clayton Moore was a great horseman, and you can even tell he is holding his rains, knowing he is about to get nippy.  The other Silver was slower than Scout, and Jay Silverheels had to hold him back so he would not get in front of Silver.  Interesting trivia I found one time. 

Yes we live very near Chatsworth where several of the Movie ranches were, and Corriganville is just a few miles further in Simi Valley. My friend lives out in the Vasques rocks area, where you would recognize the rock formations. They are angled rocks uplifted by earthquake faults, but you have seen them in hundreds of movies. They filmed the Flintstones, where it was the town of Bedrock.  We also like to look up on the internet other filming locations, like in Lone Pine or Joshua Tree monument area.  

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