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ART IDEAS AND ART TALK(winks)
February 20, 2010
3:46 pm
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I love talking about "artsy" things,people who express their views through art forms,very poetically done ,I might add..

most of you know the dude(can't think of his name right now,old age? 😉 )

he did the KKK one with all the little strips of the bible he had torn up for the medium,like he used the medium ,in a very significant way,to express his "philosophical" viewpoint of things..Very cool artist in my mind.

anyhow,I'm am thinking of attempting using peoples cigarette ashes to do portraits of them,(have dabbled with this medium before and it works great)...I think it might be a good way to use up ashes,unles they serve another useful purpose in the envirement. 😕 ....

You really need to understand contrat of light and dark,doing art peices,something I'm learning,but not very good at...was ALWAYS interested in art as a kid,....like probably many of you were as well.

we're all artistic,I know that...some of the "art treasures", I own are things my kids did at 6, (those can be a parents "picasso's),and have just as much value,as the "priceless" painting does.

Just a few thoughts on art, any feed back most welcome as usual..

February 21, 2010
6:23 pm
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anyhow,I'm am thinking of attempting using peoples cigarette ashes to do portraits of them,(have dabbled with this medium before and it works great)...I think it might be a good way to use up ashes,unles they serve another useful purpose in the envirement.

So far your best work has been the portraits of the non-smokers--The smokers all seem to have much nicer butts IMHO. Laugh Now thats a joke with a punchline by the way! Laugh

February 21, 2010
6:49 pm
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I'm not much or an artist persay, I couldn;t draw a picutre if my life depended on it, and they say if an artist can do faces, thats a big thing. I sure can;t do it, I'm back drawing stickmen at best.

I find artforms in mechanical things, and did do Stained glass work, which a really miss doing. Still have all my equipment packed away. I did a very elaborate old train where I designed the window from enlarging an old postage stamp into a 2x3 foot window as the border design. The train is a old 1800 steam train on a tressel. Its made from many textures of glass and many colors, It had 350 pieces ,and took me 9 months to make. It is all tiffany foil construction, rather than heavy lead came, so its very intricate. Unforturnatly suffered some 1994 earthquake damage, so is in storage right now.

Also having been a welder or mechanic, I like to do metal welded art very much. I make a lot of garden things, actually sell a few of them from time to time. I think just letting them rust naturally in the garden is pretty cool. A few years ago my wife wanted some wrought iron work so I made her a really nice gate and rose arbor. that was artistic for me to create, and I used a variety of castings and hand fabricated Roses on the gate with a walk through arbor. Making the top was a challenge, as I weaved a half round top out of strap iron.

I'm about to make my daughter a major gate 12 feet wide, and will have a desert theme, and as well as pickets and pieces that will be like natural wood branches, rather than traditional straight square tubing. I have a sourse for some really elaborate casting and plasma cut scenes I'm going to build into it. Each side of the gate will have a major center scene with deer or other mountain animals. the bottom of the gate will have a variety of desert small animals plasma cut to shape. Probably quail, roadrunners, and rabbits. The ideas is a gate that blends the desert with the surrounding mountains, in a natural way.

Thats how I express myself in art. Maybe more of a craft but with my own artistic ideas.

I did build most or our house myself, and did several things that were also my artistic ideas. Mostly using rocks making a storybook look, and elaborate fireplace, and a rock shower, with the use of decorative windows. I got do learn how to build a solid oak banister and staircase also.

February 21, 2010
7:02 pm
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So far your best work has been the portraits of the non-smokers--The smokers all seem to have much nicer butts IMHO. Now thats a joke with a punchline by the way!

Laugh Laugh ^^^^ it was cute...not sure if the "punch " line was that great 😕 😉 <(second smiley was the one that is neutral,but for some odd reason has developed a facial tic) Laugh Laugh

The rest of your post was AWESOME,and may I say I am seriously impressed with your creative endeavors Greeney, wow!!!

would love to see a pic of the stained glass you did with the "postage stamp" idea..

that I'm sure is a "priceless" peace of artwork that your family might well fight over some day..(hopefully not)

You should get it out of storage ,young man, and put it,or prop it at least ,against some beautiful sunshine. Enjoy the effort you took in creating it...and share it with others.

I'm sure your family members treasure all that you have worked on and created as well....I know I would if it had been my fathers "art".

I guess I'm trying to say in some way,that I think they are fortunate to have such a creative father,and one who takes pleasure in learning the "trade",and doing what is needed to "finish" the project.

Kudos to you for that Geeeney,,,Kudos to all of the members on this board for that.. 😀 😀 😀 😎 😎 😎 😀

February 21, 2010
7:07 pm
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by the way greener...I appreciate you sharing that about yourself

this is what this thread was intended for...

how people see art,how they express themselves through it,

we are all "artists" in some form..we all share "creativity"..

and thats a beautiful thing, about humanity, that I am grateful exists.

February 21, 2010
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I was really very lucky when I got my job at Rocketdyne, and made the decision to study robotics. We developed the first robotic welds, and I did the first production robotic weld on the Space Shuttle Main Engine. I worked extensively with the welding engineers, developing and converting some of the most critical welds on the shuttle to robotic welds. We developed to weld schedules and proceedures to replace many manual welds that defects would take a year to repair, and cost hundreds of thosands dollars to fix. Some of our proceedures welded very expensive componets togather, so critical that one mistake would scrap millions of dollars. Those welds to me were not only the biggest welding challenge imaginable, but the end results were perfect welds with not xray defects. They were picture perfect and to me an artform. One particular weld I would program and preform joined the Main Injector to the main powerhead, which joined a $15 million Dollar part to a 10 Million dollar part. Thats is a proceedure that took many many days to do, but the end result was a weld that was an artform in itself, to me.

February 21, 2010
7:42 pm
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no doubt it was...I guess it would be rather a redundant question to ask you if you are a "red seal" welder..

you obviously "passed" a few tests along the road to get to that degree of welding... 😮 😎 ...I am impressed, as what I do know about that trade..it can be very tough..my ex is a pipe fitter,and he's talked about some of the disappointments in grade and performance a welder faces, and that the pipe fitters are not put under as much "grading" of their work..(though perhaps they are graded in other wayz)

February 21, 2010
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I'm not familiar with the term "Red seal" , but the welders at Rocketdyne carry many certifications, and we have very stringent tests every 2 years. I held certs in all the material groups, structural steel, Stainless, Inconel, Aluminum, Titanian, and Cobolt. plus certs in Robotic Welding, Automatic welding, In place Tube welding. We were retested every 2 years with complete origional tests in every group. Each material had 3 tests held in a position that required the welding to be done horizontal, vertical and overhead, plus a t-fillet weld of a .030 thick tube to a plate. You have to have complete penitration of the tube, but could not burn through to the inside. All are x-rayed, with no defects allowed. As you get older and your near vision gets worse that t-fillet is very very difficult. We also have to pass rigid eye exams too. We were the only group of people who had to retest that often, but these motors are fully welded construction. Any number of welds that failed could have resulted in loss of orbiter and crew.

February 23, 2010
1:55 pm
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Thinking of attempting something with my cigarette ashes, gonna start saving them, from today on,and attempt a self portrait of my self..the way I look in a mirror....

I don't know why I feel inspired to do this..maybe the challenge of it..maybe some day I can proudly say..."yep those were the last ashes of that kinda crap being ingested by this body"

I think I might want to start saving cigarette ash for , art work as well..(can just see the looks now,when I ask people to dump their ashtrays,into my can....then I have to safely sift what is of use, and "recycle "..the rest?)

I always thought cigarette filters were probably very good lil nest building tools ..(like lil chemical saturated pillows), when taken apart.....
they would be good protection in a nest against winds,and cold air.

Hopefully the chemicals don't hurt the birds, but I think they have their own good "bird" sense about safety.. Laugh Laugh maybe they have unionized safety meetings as well 😎 Laugh Laugh

anyhow..any feedback on me art idea is appreciated...cause I'm starting to save the ashes now... 😕 Laugh 😎 😎 😀

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