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Will retributions ever begin in the USA?
November 29, 2010
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We are seeing Muslim acts of terrorism inside the United States now, but have we ever had an act of retribution against Muslims inside the USA yet? This one would was a direct message to the Christian world, targeting a Christmas Tree lighting ceremony.

Oregon Muslim leaders fear retribution after plot
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Slideshow:Mohamed Osman Mohamud Play Video Video:Ore. fire boosts fears of anti-Muslim backlash AP Play Video Video:Portland bomb plot disrupts cheer Reuters By JONATHAN COOPER and NIGEL DUARA, Associated Press Jonathan Cooper And Nigel Duara, Associated Press – Mon Nov 29, 7:48 am ET
CORVALLIS, Ore. – Patrols around mosques and other Islamic sites in Portland have been stepped up as Muslim leaders expressed fears of retribution, days after a Somali-American man was accused of trying to blow up a van full of explosives during the city's Christmas tree lighting ceremony.

Portland Mayor Sam Adams said Sunday that he beefed up protection around mosques "and other facilities that might be vulnerable to knuckle-headed retribution" after hearing of the bomb plot.

The move followed a fire Sunday at the Islamic center in Corvallis, a college town about 75 miles southwest of Portland, where suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud occasionally worshipped, prompting an FBI arson investigation and concern about the potential for more retaliation.

Mohamud, 19, was being held on charges of plotting to carry out a terror attack Friday on a crowd of thousands at Portland's Pioneer Courthouse Square. He is scheduled to appear in court Monday afternoon.

His attorney, Stephen R. Sady, who has represented terrorism suspects held at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, didn't return a telephone message left Sunday by The Associated Press.

The suspect's mother, Maryan Hassan, declined to discuss the issue when contacted by phone late Sunday by the AP, referring all questions to Sady. His father also refused to comment.

Somali leaders in Oregon — a state that has been largely accepting of Muslims — gathered with Portland city leaders Sunday evening to denounce violence and call for help for at-risk Somali youth.

"We left Somalia because of war, and we would like to live in peace as part of the American community," said Kayse Jama, executive director of a local organization founded after the 9/11 attacks to fight anti-Muslim sentiment. "We are Portlanders. We are Oregonians. We are Americans, and we would like to be treated that way. We are your co-workers, your neighbors."

Earlier Sunday, worshippers at the damaged Islamic center expressed concern about retribution.

"I've prayed for my family and friends, because obviously if someone was deliberate enough to do this, what's to stop them from coming to our homes and our schools?" said Mohamed Alyagouri, a 31-year-old father of two who worships at the center. "I'm afraid for my children getting harassed from their teachers, maybe from their friends."

Yosof Wanly, the center's imam, said he was thinking about temporarily relocating his family because of the possibility of hate crimes.

"We know how it is, we know some people due to ignorance are going to perceive of these things and hold most Muslims accountable," Wanly said. But he said Corvallis has long been accepting of Muslims.

Omar Jamal, first secretary for the Somali mission to the United Nations in New York City, told The Associated Press his office has received "thousands of calls" from Somalis in the United States who are concerned about tactics used by federal agents in the sting operation against Mohamud.

An FBI affidavit said agents began investigating after receiving a tip from an unidentified person who expressed concern about Mohamud.

An agent e-mailed Mohamud, pretending to be affiliated with one of the people overseas whom Mohamud had tried to contact. Undercover agents then set up a series of face-to-face meetings with Mohamud at hotels in Portland and Corvallis.

Authorities said they allowed the plot to proceed to obtain evidence to charge the suspect with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction.

Jamal said there is concern in the Somali community that Mohamud was "lured into an illegal act."

"Rest assured that the community is very against anyone who tries to do harm to the citizens of this country," he said. But many Somalis in the United States are wondering whether Mohammud's rights were violated by federal agents, he said.

Why "did they tell him to go along with this heinous crime?" Jamal said.

The FBI affidavit said it was Mohamud who picked the target of the bomb plot, that he was warned several times about the seriousness of his plan, that women and children could die, and that he could back out.

Officials said Mohamud had no formal ties to foreign terror groups, although he had reached out to suspected terrorists in Pakistan.

After the FBI got a tip about Mohamud, an agent e-mailed him over the summer, pretending to be affiliated with an "unindicted associate" whom Mohamud had tried to contact.

Agents had some face-to-face meetings with Mohamud. On Nov. 4, in the backcountry along Oregon's coast, they convinced him that he was testing an explosive device — although the explosion was controlled by agents.

On Friday, an agent and Mohamud drove into downtown Portland in a white van that carried six 55-gallon drums with detonation cords and plastic caps, but all of them were inert.

Mozafar Wanly, father of the imam at the Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center in Corvallis, said the fact that Mohamud was e-mailing someone in Pakistan shows nobody in the U.S. supported his extremist ideology.

"He's reaching for people outside because he doesn't find any terrorists here," he said.

The fire at the center was reported at 2:15 a.m., and evidence at the scene led authorities to believe it was set intentionally, said Carla Pusateri, a fire prevention officer for the Corvallis Fire Department.

Authorities don't know who started the blaze or why, but they believe the center was targeted because Mohamud sometimes worshipped there.

Arthur Balizan, special agent in charge of the FBI in Oregon, said there's no conclusive link to the bombing in Portland or specific evidence that it's a hate crime, other than the timing.

There were no injuries in Sunday's fire, which burned 80 percent of the center's office but did not spread to worship areas or any other rooms, said Yosof Wanly, the center's imam.

"Just as American Muslims repudiate any act that would threaten our nation's safety and security, we ask our fellow citizens to reject any attacks on Muslims or their religious institutions," said Arsalan Bukhari of the Seattle chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

The FBI was working closely with leadership at the Corvallis center as agents investigated the fire, Balizan said. The bureau has established a telephone tip line and a $10,000 reward has been offered for information leading to an arrest.

Wanly said Mohamud moved to the U.S. from Somalia as a young boy. Mohamud graduated from high school in the Portland suburb of Beaverton and attended Oregon State University but dropped out on Oct. 6.

He described Mohamud as a normal student who went to athletic events.

Tyler Napier, 17, who lived next door to the family for three years, told Portland's KGW-TV that he used to play pickup basketball with Mohamud.

"We would always be outside playing in the street together," he said. "It's really scary to think about . . . I talked to him, went to school with him, now he's trying to blow up the Square — it's like a reality check I guess."

Alex Masak, a classmate of Mohamud's at Westview High School in Beaverton, told KPTV that he recently received a strange message from him, out of the blue.

"He texted me asking if I knew of any places where he could shoot guns off where nobody would hear," said Masak. "I didn't think much of it," he said.

Jesse Day, spokesman for the Muslim American and Arab American Leaders of Oregon, said Sunday morning that Mohamud's father, Osman Barre, was "mortified" and "very tearful" on Saturday night.

November 30, 2010
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Children, all of them.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

December 5, 2010
7:15 am

I remember shortly after 9/11 someone out west ..in Arizona or New Mexico went after what they thought was a Muslim running a business. They killed a fellow from India..a Sihk.

What an awful event to take place. I dont agree with the wholesale killing of Muslims or sucnh retribution as I dont think alot of them living in this country want this to happen. Some of their leaders might. So too might some of our leaders. But compared to many other foreign peoples and nations, Americans are a tolerant peoples.

Nonetheless, it is obviouis that many of the attacks have come from Muslims and Islamic peoples. This is difficult to downplay but our leaders are attempting to do just that.


December 5, 2010
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I do remember that, the killer was too ignorant to even know the person was not even a Muslim, all he saw was the Indian head cover, I can't recall what its called.

December 6, 2010
3:04 pm

"greeney2" wrote: I do remember that, the killer was too ignorant to even know the person was not even a Muslim, all he saw was the Indian head cover, I can't recall what its called.

Yes, I too cannot remember the name for the head cover. I just call it a turban.

Nonetheless the fellow was not even a Muslim. This is why this kind of thing is not good.

Even the Israelis, when going after the Munich Massacre peoples..they got the wrong guy right in front of his wife..if I recall the events, in Sweden I think. It has been a long time since I read the article. They too got the wrong guy. The guy they got was not even affiliated with the events at the 72 Olympics.

Most Muslims come here to make a better living for themselves and their families. Just as have so many before them done and from many nations. I find no fault with this.


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