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U.S. atheists use hair dryers to de-baptise
July 19, 2010
6:15 pm
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Now I may disagree with infant baptism as well, but for entirely different reasons. For me, this seems to go deeper than just baptism, it is mocking God. That "blast of hot air" just might be somewhat . . . prophetic.

U.S. Atheists Reportedly Using Hair Dryers to 'De-Baptize'
"American atheists lined up to be "de-baptized" in a ritual using a hair dryer, according to a report Friday on U.S. late-night news program "Nightline." Leading atheist Edwin Kagin blasted his fellow non-believers with the hair dryer to symbolically dry up the holy water sprinkled on their heads in days past. The styling tool was emblazoned with a label reading "Reason and Truth." Kagin believes parents are wrong to baptize their children before they are able to make their own choices, even slamming some religious education as "child abuse." He said the blast of hot air was a way for adults to undo what their parents had done."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/17/at ... s-baptize/

July 19, 2010
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LOL LOL LOL Qmark,

Now this is funny.

Baptism is entry into the local church. I don't believe in infant baptism.

One is not saved by Baptism..but by Blood.

This is just a bunch of drama queens...saving themselves.

This is funny..but there are enough people not knowing or understanding out here to buy into this nonsense.

Once you know...the Truth...it does not make good nonsense...but it does make good drama for those who live for their emotions.

There is no such instruction for Believers to be such drama queens or live for their emotions as such.

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July 19, 2010
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Kagin believes parents are wrong to baptize their children before they are able to make their own choices, even slamming some religious education as "child abuse." He said the blast of hot air was a way for adults to undo what their parents had done."

That would be called Confirmation in the Catholic and Luthern churches when they do make their own choice at an appropriate age. Qmark, I sincerly hope you do not catagorize infant Baptism and this hair dryer boloney in the same boat.

July 19, 2010
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No greeney, I do not put them in the same catagory. For me, infant baptism is no different than infant dedication which takes place in most protestant denominations. This group however, seems to delight in the mocking of God.

July 19, 2010
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"greeney2" wrote:

Kagin believes parents are wrong to baptize their children before they are able to make their own choices, even slamming some religious education as "child abuse." He said the blast of hot air was a way for adults to undo what their parents had done."

That would be called Confirmation in the Catholic and Luthern churches when they do make their own choice at an appropriate age. Qmark, I sincerly hope you do not catagorize infant Baptism and this hair dryer boloney in the same boat.

Confirmation is far from being the child's "own choice". I know that I was never once asked whether I wanted to be confirmed or not. It was part of the procedure of going to Catechism/Sunday School for Catholics.

July 19, 2010
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Greeney,

We Protestants believe that a legitimate baptism should be performed at the request of the one being baptized, as a profession of faith. If a Protestant is baptized as a young child, the general thought of the Protestant is that it's fine and dandy, but a subsequent baptism should take place once the person is mature and wise enough to make their own decision to do it.

I know the Catholic belief is not like that at all, and that's ok. I'm just explaining the Protestant position.

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July 20, 2010
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I thought some of our resident atheists would enjoy this thread.

July 20, 2010
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"qmark" wrote: I thought some of our resident atheists would enjoy this thread.

I think atheists doing this is briefly mildly amusing as a joke, but a pretty silly waste of time if treated as anything more.

If he's taking this seriously, I wonder exactly what the guy thinks is being "undone".

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July 20, 2010
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Anyone who wants the hair dryer ritual, already has undone their Baptism IMHO.

Ninor has a good point, but I guess that could be said about any kid and religion. What kid if it was his/her choice would goto church at all when they are growing up, if Mom and Dad didn't make it happen. Actually as kids, we knew you had to goto Mass, and many of us walked to Mass togather, and didn't go with parents, so it works both ways. The idea that infant Baptism, or taking kids to Church and Sunday school is "child abuse", is pretty ludicras to me, unless they a beating the religion into kids in the woodshed. I'm sure many kids have seen the woodshed, in some of the most strict or staunch churches.

IHMO you could make just as strong of a case for Child neglect, by depriving kids of any religious training whatsoever, which is not much different from forbiding them to explore a religious interest.

July 20, 2010
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"greeney2" wrote: Anyone who wants the hair dryer ritual, already has undone their Baptism IMHO.

That's a lot deeper than some would give it credit. But so true.

IHMO you could make just as strong of a case for Child neglect, by depriving kids of any religious training whatsoever, which is not much different from forbiding them to explore a religious interest.

And again, well said. 😀

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