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The BELIEVE System
May 1, 2010
10:49 pm
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Could it be that the latest brouhaha in the nation, sparked by the newly signed immigration law in Arizona, could have Biblical implications? I think the timing is perfect for this administration. I also find it interesting that our fearless leaders have come up with the, ”BELIEVE” System, as an answer for illegal immigration. Obama certainly is not one to shy away from government control or spending money. Could the BELIEVE system lead to the “Beast” system?

From “The Hill”:
Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure. . .

The national ID program would be titled the Believe System, an acronym for Biometric Enrollment, Locally stored Information and Electronic Verification of Employment.

It would require all workers across the nation to carry a card with a digital encryption key that would have to match work authorization databases.

“The cardholder’s identity will be verified by matching the biometric identifier stored within the microprocessing chip on the card to the identifier provided by the cardholder that shall be read by the scanner used by the employer,” states the Democratic legislative proposal.

The American Civil Liberties Union, a civil liberties defender often aligned with the Democratic Party, wasted no time in blasting the plan.

“Creating a biometric national ID will not only be astronomically expensive, it will usher government into the very center of our lives. Every worker in America will need a government permission slip in order to work. And all of this will come with a new federal bureaucracy — one that combines the worst elements of the DMV and the TSA,” said Christopher Calabrese, ACLU legislative counsel.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/9523 ... al-id-card

May 2, 2010
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It's not alarmist to say, this could be the beginning.

The way the end times are described, a lot of it seems to be taking shape, but in just the way the bible said it would, which we all are puzzled to accept. The bible said it would come like a thief in the night, but how could it when the signs are so obvious?

Take heed.

Look at all the signs described in the bible and tell they haven't either begun to reveal themselves for the first time, or haven't increased in strength and frequency, over recent times.

Seriously, take the time to do that. Then you can stick your head back in the sand and laugh, if you will.

The rest of us will take notice and be on our toes.

One world government? check. for the first time in our history we can say it's coming soon.
Wars? check.
famine? check.
disease? check.
natural disasters? check.
believe system? check.

ok I made the last one up but seriously, we should at least be taking note of this.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

May 2, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: It's not alarmist to say, this could be the beginning.

The way the end times are described, a lot of it seems to be taking shape, but in just the way the bible said it would, which we all are puzzled to accept. The bible said it would come like a thief in the night, but how could it when the signs are so obvious?

This is passed the beginning, time has been and will be deceiving.
A curtain has just recently been pulled back, what people
will be able to imagine is no longer limited in the way it was
so we should expect many more people to start snapping
out of it, as if in a flash. Things will not take as much time
as it has in the past for some of us and for some events,
there is alot less of a delay in cause and effects. Karma as well,
on a micro macro level, we will reap what we sow and not be so
delusioned as to what it is, time is speeding up. There is a momentum
some of us will very much move right along with. Not all of
this is dreadful for some of us, and for life and what is loving.
Alot of good things starting to happen for people of faith.

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

May 2, 2010
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qmark, the beast system has been here for a long time, it is the system of delusion.
This National Id program is no good, you're right, and its another bad move.
But, it is not the mark of the beast.
And I do not believe Obama is the antichrist.....the antichrist has
been here for long time. Obama makes alot of
decisions that are questionable I realise, and we have to always remember that there
is no other way to get in any position of Power in the world without
making sacrafices from what is loving and truthful, but I see Obama in the
right place at the right time, things are not easy and there will be compassion
while there can be.

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

May 2, 2010
7:27 pm
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The beast system has been around a long time in the spiritual sense, but not in the physical sense. That is yet to come and it is coming quickly. The mark is on its way and this "could be" a giant step forward to realizing that.

The spirit of antichrist has been around a long time, but not the physical appearance of the actual antichrist. I believe he is alive today but his time has not yet come. It will come soon. I don't know what to make of Obama. He could very well be one of the ten kings that gives over his reign to the antichrist. I too see Obama in the right place at the right time, but not in a good way, biblically speaking.

May 2, 2010
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"qmark" wrote: The beast system has been around a long time in the spiritual sense, but not in the physical sense. That is yet to come and it is coming quickly. The mark is on its way and this "could be" a giant step forward to realizing that.

Qmark, yes, in the spiritual sense the beast system has been here for a long time, a veil has just been lifted, its going to take time for some people to readjust their awareness, consciousness has just expanded in a way we have never known. If we do not already, we will begin to see that physically as well, it has been here. I agree that this Identification system will boost some peoples attention to what is happening, I have ZERO doubt, that it is NOT the mark of the beast.

The spirit of antichrist has been around a long time, but not the physical appearance of the actual antichrist. I believe he is alive today but his time has not yet come. It will come soon. I don't know what to make of Obama. He could very well be one of the ten kings that gives over his reign to the antichrist. I too see Obama in the right place at the right time, but not in a good way, biblically speaking.

Oh yeah, And where is Christ? I can tell you right now because of what is happening on earth, physically and spiritually things are no longer seperated....again, its going to take time for us to see how much that is true.

What was cruxcified on the cross? Love and Life was......that alone was an illusion in a sense, life resurrects. This time, what gets cruxcified? Hate, what is evil, and you know what, it doesn't come down from that cross, it stays there for an eternity. You will not see me wearing a cross any time soon. Radical I know. What happens from here on out, there is no going back, as things get put in order, they will now stay there.

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

May 3, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote:
Wars? check.
famine? check.
disease? check.
natural disasters? check.
believe system? check.

Uhhh check...all that stuff's been goin' on throughout history. Where have you been? 😕

I don't believe what I believe because it's what I desire to believe. I believe what I believe because it's what science, evidence, and logic causes me to believe.

May 3, 2010
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"event_horizon" wrote: [quote="frrostedman"]
Wars? check.
famine? check.
disease? check.
natural disasters? check.
believe system? check.

Uhhh check...all that stuff's been goin' on throughout history. Where have you been? 😕

Umm, not the BELIEVE system.

May 3, 2010
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Biblical or not, this is some pretty messed up crap. I'm sick of the government snooping up my @$$. What's next? Bar codes on the back of our necks? 😡

I don't believe what I believe because it's what I desire to believe. I believe what I believe because it's what science, evidence, and logic causes me to believe.

May 3, 2010
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"event_horizon" wrote: Biblical or not, this is some pretty messed up crap. I'm sick of the government snooping up my @$$. What's next? Bar codes on the back of our necks? 😡

I agree with you but it won't be hidden on the back of the neck. It will be out in the open for the world to see. Take this mark or you can't exist, will be the option. It won't be just Christians dying for their refusal to take the mark. Anyone who believes in individual rights will suffer the same fate here on earth.

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