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Stephen Hawking and his view of God
June 7, 2011
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Stephen Hawkings thoughts for believing that the idea of Heaven and God is just fairy tale are based on his belief that our brains are basically computers. Once a computer breaks down and dies, its over.
I respect Hawkings and his work, but not once does he even account for the something that we have that computers do not... consciousness. Is consciousness a result of a highly advanced computer? Also, I do not side from his stark opinion simply because he has a greater understanding of the forces of nature than the common man does.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/ ... -no-heaven

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June 8, 2011
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soul just looks for a way in..soul will use what ever door it can to..experience

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

June 8, 2011
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I guarentee that there are many things Mr. Hawkins may be a genius about, but at the same time completly incapable of other things. How many times have you seen someone who is the top of their field, all thumbs at other things or so out of touch they can not relate to normal everyday things. My Daughters first Orthopedic surgeon was that kind of a person. In the operating room, the man was a total genius, having fixed more kids on deaths doorstep from tramatic injuries, but in the office the man was a bumbling scatterbrained spectical. His nurse was a nervous wreck 24/7 having to guide him like a child from room to room, seemingly totally lost and confused.

People like Hawkins may have the answers of the Einstiens of the world, but couldn't relate to a 4th graders social adjustments, maybe never even had a girlfriend, and couldn't carry on a conversation about simple things I'm betting. Things are either black or white, and no inbetween. He could tell you about the theory of relativity, but if you asked about fishing or what to do on a date this weekend, no clue. He lives at a level none of us can understand or relate to, and I'm sure it is a bleek lonly existance, and no real reason to be optomistic about God or Heaven, given his physical condition and the cards he got delt for his life. I'd probably feel the same way, instead of thinking how blessed my life has been.

On the other side of the coin from Hawkins is a man I knew in Ohio my Uncle took me to meet, named Ross Manning. Ross and his family all probably had maybe a 4th-6th grade education, and I'm not sure Ross even went to school, as he was horribly crippled, and literaly would drag himself to the bathroom on the floor. He was proud of the fact, he had lived most of his life in the same living room chair, but still better off physically from Hawkins. He was however in education and intellegence the total opposite end of the scale, but Ross Loved the Lord, and had such a thankfulness for life in spite of what his life was. He was happy for what he had, and happy to be alive, a real inspiration, and real believer in God and Heaven, with every bit as much reason as Hawkins to believe it is a fairy tale.

June 8, 2011
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ooh..I like that...really good points and observations

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

June 8, 2011
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H-a-w-k-i-n-g

Does it really matter what anyone else's opinions are? Does it matter that he holds the same position at Cambridge that Isaac Newton held?

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June 9, 2011
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it does and it doesn't..
he has brains, education, experience and such..so that needs to be taken into account, but sometimes that is the very stuff that can get in ones' way..you can't see the blossoming , attempting to blossom trees, for the forest..it can get in the way of ..wait for it..INNOVATION
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Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

June 9, 2011
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All I can say is the the most intellegent of people can't to the most simple of things, one may be able to logic Physics or the highest levels of Math, but unable to drive a car. The most educated about religion, usually do not have spirtual bone in their body. Sometimes your brain tells you one thing, and your heart tells you something totally different. All logic goes out the window in matters of love and romance, no matter if you are a genius or dumber than a box of rocks. It confuses and baffles everyone. Laugh

June 9, 2011
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tr,ue THAT!!
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Feels like Shakespeare had something to say on all that at some point in his career.

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

June 9, 2011
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Good point Greeney.

I'm just a bit surprised by Hawking's need to publicize his opinion on heaven. He knows that our understanding of the universe is a just a microcosm of the big picture. With his amount of intellect, I would think he would be smart enough to rationalize the fact he should at least be humbled by the vastness of the universe. But such is the mind of a theoretical physicist I guess, they work purely from numbers that they are supplied with and have a hard time constructing philosophical thoughts or ideas.

"a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people."

June 9, 2011
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If you can believe in undiscovered galaxies, why would you conclude Heaven does not exist or may be beyond them?

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