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'Spiritual Reality: Near Death Experiences
September 28, 2011
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To me, Death is not physical death but any event that causes an awakening or at least an epiphany.

eypp..a shamanistic experience

Greeney, I came close to death seriously, several times also

I had toxemia with my pregnancy both I and my son came very close to deaht..an emergency c-section..my boy was in NICU for nine days and only weighed 4lbs 13 oz. at birth
the night of my sons birth every time they took my blood pressure an alrm would go off (the warning aalrm that it was deadly high)
we both made it through, though

a few years abck I had surgery that went very wrong..it was suppose to take 1 hour and landed up taking six hours because my body rejected thenew protein 'glue' they used to reseal sutures and everything opened up again..they had to rush in and sew me up, manually

I had a serious wound infection from that surgery, and developed a fistula. I was in ICU for two weeks..on TPN feeding for two months (no food or water could pass through my mouth) had an open wound infection (a big hole in my gut like I had been stabbed) that a nurse had to come to my house daily to clean and pack for two months (still have the scar)

the amazing dreams I had at this time..were..well..amazing..some of angels..some of demons

everytime..I felt..something..some energy protecting me..letting me know I would make it through (I really thought the wound infection was gonna kill me, thouhg..but here I am)
so..yeah..I know about being near death

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

September 28, 2011
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If I was robbed at gun point or even shot at, I would say that would scare me real good and may be one of the worst experiences of my life, but not a NDE. If they beat me to a pulp and to a inch from killing me, that would probably be a near death experience.

My wife didn't experience anything but while in the hospital for surgury, she was bleeding and her BP was dropping, so had to rush her back into surgury. I was sitting with her all day and just thought she was resting in recovery from the morning surgury. Thank God for that nurse who knew what she was doing. She yelled at the Doctor to get his ass back, she has to go back to surgury NOW.

Those are definatly NDE Bionic.

September 28, 2011
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yeha..
but I didn't have the whole "tunnel light ". after life experience..not that I remember, anyway

The NDE's I am really curious about are those..I have come close during OBE's, though

I realize there are people, remote viewers and such that can take OBE's and psychic 'mind traveling' to an amazing level.

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

September 28, 2011
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The NDEs I am intigued by are the tunnel/light ones.
I might have had thta, but don't remember.
I have come close in an OBE before, though.
I realize that there are people who can take OBE's and 'mind traveling', and such to a much more powerful leve than most can fathoml, though.

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

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