April 9, 2009
Historically, those who followed Jesus would talk about him in their homes. Today, in the US, it is near impossible to find a church that isn't in bed with the IRS (the devil).
Our founding Fathers talked openly about the Bible and religions due to the printing press. Unitarians were born from the printing press. Today, we have the internet. It is the printing press of today.
Madison didn't want politics in his religion and Jefferson didn't want religion in his politics. But somehow, through the irs, the two have been merged.
Is it time again for small groups to gather in homes to talk about God, the Bible, religion, politics, etc.? Maybe with food as well?
Qmark, halfabo, and frosty, I'd like your input on this question. Oh yeah, you too 1=0 :P)
Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen... - Zbigniew Brezhinsky
April 9, 2009
April 9, 2009
First off, I'm willing to bet that millions of Christians do meet at private homes for Bible/religious discussions now. They definatly meet in exsising churches. You probably do not do either, but are full of advise for those who do.
"Churches in bed with the IRS", I think you have anther one of your screwballs perspectives about things.
Today, we have the internet. It is the printing press of today.
Problem is how truthful has it been, and how misused is it? The real printing press ,is a far cry from a anonymous name spouting out a ridiculas opinion. Printed books usually have named authors, lists of legitimate references, reviewed and approved, verified for sourse, and are the works of longs periods of time. The worst uses of the "internet printing press", is just like this example, where you make up a concept within minutes, write it and send it, and thousands of people see it in seconds, and it becomes the truth.
One great example of this was the Democrats who admitted to the fact the internet blogging, and years of telling total untruths, swayed voters, got them back into the White House. They didn't care about the truth, and you call the IRA the devil! Now this has become our New System, listening to fabricated lies, with no way to verify them. You don't know if the author is a Harvard, graduate, Al-Queda, Jack the Ripper, or the town drunk. If 10 people read it, and 5 are taken in by it, they send it to all their friends, and nobody has the truth. How long will it take before we no longer have a library with real books, its all going to be linked to the internet. The old salesmens philosophy, sling s**t on the wall 10 times, if it sticks once, thats all they want.
Funny how you see something wrong or evil about the way people should meet to talk about God, and see nothing wrong with the New kind of printing press, the internet.
April 9, 2009
I'm with Nesaie on this one.
Churches should not have a tax number with the IRS or any government.
Churches should be tax immune..not tax exempt.
What both the government and the Churches have done is jump into bed with each other and at the expense in ignorance of the public and their flocks.
Claiming any expenses off on ones taxes for supporting a church is a price support..a tax subsidy. It is a clear violation of the separation of Church and State principle.
It is government and the churches working together..not separation. It is a deception on the part of the churches as well as the government.
Churches should never have a government issued tax number. This makes them a corporation ..a creation of the state..a creature of the state.
Churches should never be supported by the state..through tax subsidy or tax supports.
I know several churches who do not give annual chits to their flock. You give because you want to support the church. They have no tax number.
As to meeting in peoples houses...I have no problem with this. I know of a church which rents a room out every week..and holds services there. Churches were known for meeting in peoples houses, in fields, wherever they could find room..not in a big man made edifice.
The church is the assembly..the people..the members..it is not a building.
People have somehow gotten this backwards from the early churches.
The church meets and the church goes home.
It is that simple.
Churches are to be tax immune..not tax exempt. Tax exemption can be taken away at the whim of government if the churches preach something of which the government disapproves. This is not Separation of Church and State..it is government moving into the God business...establishing government power or back to feudalism..Divine Right of Kings..absolute power.
All this does is keep or prevent churches from being able to preach the Whole Council of God.
April 9, 2009
April 9, 2009
"at1with0" wrote: I usually use the KJV. Don't know if I'm using the 1611 edition though.
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Wow..ok non problem at1with0.
That is easily remedied or solved. First off let me clear something up. A New King James is not a King James version of the AV 1611. It is a bastardization to confuse Believers by switching doctrines in key places.
A KIng James AV 1611 Version will say in it on the inside cover..."Translated out of original tounges."
It will not contain the apocrypha. IN the apocrypha section of some bibles you will find book such as Tobbit, Bell and the Dragon, Maccabees, Judith and others.
I am adding this in edit..but if you want to know where when and why the various Bible versions came out and why they were changed and modified, I recommend a controversial book..called
New Age Bible Versions
By Gail Riplinger.
This book will show you chapter by chapter..verse by verse..showing them in left right columns how the verses read in different versions ...where and why they were changed.
This topic has been covered by many other writers but never in this much detail.
Gail Riplinger caught the dickens from other "Experts" and publishing houses for her book but it is worth the read. She gave away to much informations to the public. The public is supposed to remain ignorant and in the dark about what she is writing.
I have this book right here always next to my computer and near my Bible.
Hope this helps,
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