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Revealing the True Identity of Jesus Christ
February 15, 2015
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[align=justify]The Bible claims but does not elaborate on why God sent his son down to earth to die for something that humans had nothing to do with, first off what was it that humans did that was so wrong, and why does someone have to die so that humans can be forgiven. It is quite conceivable that this Biblical statement could have been misinterpreted. The EBE crisis taskforce may have granted Homo sapiens a reprieve when it was decided they were worthwhile to save. The creators believed that if there could be a paradigm shift of the human’s philosophical and social mores this would allow humans to have a normal course of evolution.

A small contingent of Homo sapiens Ascorbicus was either created on or sent to Earth for such a mission. It is believed John the Baptist and Jesus Christ were part of a contingent of Homo sapiens Asorbicus given the task of demonstrating to mankind the perfection of what man would become during a natural evolutionary process. During Jesus Christ’s 33 years on earth he demonstrated remarkable abilities such as turning water into wine, curing the sick (chapter 16) and walking on water. To this day these extraordinary miracles defy reality as we understand it. There is a logical explanation to who Jesus Christ was. Jesus Christ was an advanced version of the sub-species Homo sapiens Ascorbicus. To prove this point let’s not analyze the previously mentioned miracles but let’s analyze the crucifixion. No Homo sapiens could have survived the excruciating scourging before being nailed to a cross but a Homo sapiens Ascorbicus conceivably could.

Based on the Shroud of Turin Jesus Christ was approximately 6’0 feet tall and about 165.5 lbs. Jesus Christ was not a physically imposing man. The crucifixion of Jesus began with the scourging. According to Jewish law a victim was to be whipped only 39 times. Since Jesus was a Rabbi it seems reasonable to conclude that Jesus was flogged at least 39 times. During the scourging, the skin was ripped from the victims back, exposing a bloody mass of tissue and bone. It was quite normal for the victim to experience extreme blood loss, quite often causing death or unconsciousness. Jesus having suffered and survived the brutal scourging, in addition to the beatings by the Roman soldiers miraculously was able to maintained a coherent level of consciousness when analyzed this defies modern medical science. After the flogging and beatings Jesus was forced to carry a 100 pound crossbar approximately 200 yards to Calvary the execution site. In a weakened state while carrying the crossbar Jesus needed assistance. Historical accounts report that Simon of Cyrene helped Jesus carry the crossbar. During the march to Calvary where Jesus would eventually be nailed to the cross, he was losing significant amounts of blood. As time passed, the loss of blood and lack of oxygen would cause severe cramps, spasmodic contractions and eventually unconsciousness.

When Jesus was nailed to the cross the mechanism of death in the crucifixion was suffocation. Jesus was still able to maintain a level of consciousness once nailed to the cross which again defies modern medical science. No Homo sapien during the period of Jesus or even in modern times could have survived the scourging and beatings before being nailed to the cross. Jesus Christ represented a new highly evolved subspecies of Homo sapiens called Homo Sapiens Ascorbicus. A highly evolved human subspecies like Jesus was superior spiritually, mentally and physically to the common earth bound Homo Sapiens with their 4000 genetic defects. What is amazing is Jesus was a human, he bleed and died as a human but had enhanced abilities unlike any other human being. A long evolution with the L-gulono-γ-lactone oxidase molecule (GLO) has to be considered a major factor in the development of the extraordinary enhancements that Jesus Christ possessed.[/align]

April 9, 2015
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The Shroud of Turin is a photographic chemical negative. A negative laid out flat.

 

This cannot be the burial cloth in which Jesus was buried. For the custom of the day is to cover a body in wraps after applying oils and unguents. Lots of heavy wraps.The cloth would not turn out to be a flat negative if this was properly done. Unrolling such a burial cloth would produce a pattern spread out all over the place and unrecognizable...not a flat negative as one sees in the shroud.

People who have done photography the olde way before digital cameras.. with film negatives recognize this pattern when looking at the Shroud of Turin.

The Human in the Shroud of Turin is not Jesus of Nazareth.

 

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April 16, 2015
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Interesting suppositions I must say

Here's a thought

Maybe Jesus was just a man

An enlightened man

Who came to understand, and see, what you and the rest of mankind, simply are not ready for

The truth,  only to be revealed, when man is ready to see, understand, and accept it

 

I pray you find your truth

I have found mine

 

Lightwolf

When I die...I want to go peacefully in my sleep...like my Grandfather did...not screaming like the passengers in his car.

April 16, 2015
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Lightwolf said
Interesting suppositions I must say

Here's a thought

Maybe Jesus was just a man

An enlightened man

Who came to understand, and see, what you and the rest of mankind, simply are not ready for

The truth,  only to be revealed, when man is ready to see, understand, and accept it

 

I pray you find your truth

I have found mine

 

Lightwolf

Lightwolf,

 

Jesus was indeed a man..and this is what the Word states. That The Word took on flesh as was a man..but not an ordinary man. This is obvious from His childhood...even when He asked questions in the temple as a child. That He was not an ordinary man.

When the Pharisees tried several times to entrap Him and He spoke to them...the conversation would often break right down. It is obvious in the text...of the Word..that the Pharisees did not know what to do with Him. And the Pharisees were some of the most learned men of that day and time in Israel. That is a very important tell tale sign ..even today...when the conversations breaks right down. There is something there not desired for most people to know is going on. But Jesus knew exactly what was going on and what was at stake. Truth was at stake. And He is Truth.

The Pharisees got caught several times and did not know what to do with Him. This is why in the end..they had to plot to kill Him.

 

Men of this world and the pattern of this world are never able to see what is not intended for them to see. It takes a very different Spirit for men to see what is never intended for them to see, know, or understand.

And Jesus understood it..for He is Truth.

For you see Lightwolf...the Pharisees had substituted another truth for Truth and yet claimed to be keeping the Truth in the Law of Moses when they were in fact doing no such thing. They had privily switched to another law and another god and told no one they had done this. Yet Jesus knew they had done this and so told them...that they were of their father the devil.

People are still doing this today...right now. And most of us are never supposed to know where, when, or how this is done. The Pharisees are still with us today.

 

I have myself twice caught men under oath...to get them to tell me the name of the god of lies...and falsehoods...the god of public education..of politics..of the media..often teaching a lie..and deception...those writing and rewriting history. They admitted to me that this was being done without most people being aware of it just as in the days of Jesus and the Pharisees. They admitted to me that for this to be done many times over the centuries that it had to be done by a devout and zealous religion...not for the sake of the Truth..but for truth.

And finally I asked them to give me the god of this religion. I will never forget the look in their eyes..twice..both times when I did this to different men under oath. I was not supposed to be able to do this or know of it's existence.

Both of these men told me the same thing...that they could not tell me the name of the god..for they were under oath. But by the look in their eyes...they knew that I already knew the name of this god.

As I live and breath Lightwolf..I can tell you without reservation ..that it is a very strange thing to behold..and behold twice..men who cannot tell you the name of their god ...that they are under oath and cannot tell you the name of their god.

Most people would never believe this is possible. It would never occur to them.

 

I did not learn this on my own..but was lead to know this by a long path of learning and study.

 

This world does not like Truth...does not like Him...but prefers truth..and the lies which often accompany truth. This world loves Pharisees and they are still with us today. Advancing by degrees in the wisdom of this world wearing the mortar board of their religion.

For His people are made acceptable...are accepted in the Blood..He does the accepting. He makes us acceptable by covering us with His Blood.

 

Orangetom

April 18, 2015
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Orangetom,

I have no doubt that you are sincere in what you believe and hold to be true according to your faith.

I also have no doubt in your belief in what you feel is the truth.

I, as do you, firmly believe in God. I know Jesus lived and died for HIS truth.

However....My search for truth has lead me down so many different paths, leaving me wondering if there IS such a thing as truth, more questions, so few answers only to find...after spending most of my life looking, the path to true understanding was right there in front of me....but I just didn't have the eyes to see....I was not ready

Nor were the Pharisees...just men...blind to truth as are most....

The bible...the Word as you espouse it...was written by Man.....

God doesn't need the written word to prove himself....he simply waits for those who question....those who seek truth, and with a little nudge here and there....those who seek the truth find it

Don't hind behind words Orangetom....have the strength, the courage, to seek beyond that which is written

God loves you and always will....

Have faith

God helps those who help themselves

 

Lightwolf

When I die...I want to go peacefully in my sleep...like my Grandfather did...not screaming like the passengers in his car.

April 18, 2015
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People all have different stories of how their journey in life led them to their Faith. That can be as simple as a normal life, to finding the bottom of the barrel of life.   It can be some profound life experiences or just growing up and doing all the normal things that go with it, like Sunday school, church, parents and grandparents who guided you.   I don't think God is counting the number of times you read the Bible, or even if you never did.  

April 19, 2015
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About the only thing I can add to this discussion is that I'm happy that I'm a part of a forum where these types of subjects aren't ridiculed. I find it very perplexing about how most religious people mock extra-teresstrials interferring or being involved (whichever side of the coin you see it as) in human affairs any more ridiculous than heavenly creatures whose god is hung up on proving who likes his more to his defected right hand man.

"That's the problem with drinking ... If something bad happens you drink in attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen." -- Charles Bukowski

April 20, 2015
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Give a for-instance? 

April 29, 2015
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Lightwolf,

 

 

God doesn't need the written word to prove himself....he simply waits for those who question....those who seek truth, and with a little nudge here and there....those who seek the truth find it

Don't hind behind words Orangetom....have the strength, the courage, to seek beyond that which is written 

 

Indeed God does not need to prove Himself. His Word is for us..not to prove Himself as todays educated sophisticated men are want to assume. But His Word is our armor by which we can test and know many things in this world whether they are of God or not of God. Whether they are of Heaven or of this world and the god of this world. His Word is how we know to separate from most of the pattern of this world. The very thing for which this world does not want us to do...separate.

Come out from amongst them and be ye separate sayeth the Lord.

To know the pattern of things in heaven and things on this earth.

 

This knowledge is why His Word is not liked in this world and after the pattern of this world and the god of this world. Why it is being attempted to be removed from every public discourse in order to be replaced by the traditions of men.  To replace unleaven with leaven... new wine with olde.

 

His Word is our instruction manual...to know the patterns of Heaven and of this world and the god of this world...and the struggle which has aways been going on out here..the blood war....."The Ever War."

 

Orangetom

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