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Missing Bees, Cell Phones, and Bible Prophecy
June 13, 2011
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A curious article I stumbled upon a couple days ago:

....A Cornell University study has estimated that honeybees annually pollinate more than $14 billion worth of seeds and crops in the United States, mostly fruits, vegetables and nuts. "Every third bite we consume in our diet is dependent on a honeybee to pollinate that food," said Zac Browning, vice president of the American Beekeeping Federation.

The bee losses are ranging from 30 to 60 percent on the West Coast, with some beekeepers on the East Coast and in Texas reporting losses of more than 70 percent; beekeepers consider a loss of up to 20 percent in the off season to be normal.

It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive food shortages, as the world's harvests fail.

They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well.

The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously home-loving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die singly, far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go anywhere near the abandoned hives.

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And John Chapple, one of London's biggest bee-keepers, announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides, global warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

German research has long shown that bees' behavior changes near power lines. Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause.

Revelation 6:6
Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"

Although the Bible plainly speaks of great famine in the last days, the prophetic words of Revelation 6:6 states that the olive and grape harvest will not be damaged.

In general, breeders have assumed that grapes were either completely self- fertilizing or were cross-pollinated by wind, so that in either case insects were considered of no value. The grape harvest will not be affected by the missing bee population.

Bees and other insects play a minor role in olive pollination; wind moves most of the pollen from tree to tree. Most olive varieties are self-fertile, but increased production often results from cross pollination. And neither will the olive harvest be affected by CCD.

Grape and olive oil production will only be minimally impacted by Colony Collapse Disorder while much of the fruit, vegetable and nut production will be severely reduced resulting in famine. These end time biblical prophecies are coming to pass within our own lifetimes demonstrating once again that the Word of God is true and to be trusted.

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June 13, 2011
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When the honey bees are gone we are dead meat basically.

June 13, 2011
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"greeney2" wrote: When the honey bees are gone we are dead meat basically.

Hi greeney! I've missed youuuuuuuuuuuuu.... bunches.

Did you see where Einstein believed that if the bees die, we have 4 years to live? That was interesting.

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June 14, 2011
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Could it be that the "Pale Horse" of Revelation 6 has left the gate?

June 14, 2011
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"qmark" wrote: Could it be that the "Pale Horse" of Revelation 6 has left the gate?

I mean, I guess so. It's very possible.

What's really striking to me is how all the prophecies are being fulfilled, but in a strangely silent way.

For one thing, and I'm convinced that it is by design, the wording of the prophecies is just vague and symbolic enough to be just confusing and nonsensical seeming, that the skeptics can just write it off.

Wars and rumors of wars: Coincidence, nothing to talk about
Earthquakes in increasing frequency and strength: Coincidence, nothing to talk about
Volcanoes: Coincidence, nothing to talk about
Christianity being expunged and basically outlawed little by little: Coincidence, nothing to talk about
False prophets everywhere: Coincidence
Mysterious entire colonies of bees and hundreds of birds and other animals just dying for no apparent reason, while only the grapes and olives are not affected: Coincidence, nothing to talk about

I missed probably 20 more. Coincidence, coincidence, coincidence, coincidence... it will never stop. We will yell louder and louder, shouting from our rooftops... and they will clamp their hands down on their ears even tighter and take measures to silence us.

It's coming. It's happening. And it seems to be accelerating. I can feel it. I can SEE it.

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June 14, 2011
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I have my own personal theory about the bees. First, there is a province in China that has killed all their bees and humans hand pollinate plants.

http://apinews.morkland.org/2008/08/han ... n-sichuan/

Second, if the bee die off was caused by cell phones or cell towers, then it should be effecting organic bees too. It isn't.

http://www.celsias.com/article/organic- ... sorder-cc/

This colony collapse seems to only be effecting "conventionally" raised bees. The interesting thing about "conventionally" raised bees is that the bee keepers feed the bees high fructose corn syrup.

http://www.honeybeeworld.com/m.....p/feed.htm

Now, I believe this phenomenon has been happening since the early to mid 90's. That appears to be about the same time that gmo corn crops started growing in the US. I may be mistaken on my dates here, if so, please correct me. However, it is my personal theory that the gmo high fructose corn syrup is what is really murdering the bees. Considering 70% or so of the corn grown in the US is GMO, there is a high likelyhood that that hfcs is GMO.

A couple of articles about the harm from monsanto and GMOs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/1 ... 20365.html

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/06/rep ... antos.html

And let's not forget the fact that Monsanto is a chemical corporation that created agent orange and owns pfizer which bought up the rights to aspartame and owns saccharine too.

Oh, to get this back to the religion thingy, God created the bees, plants, flowers, dirt, rain, etc. When evil corporations start messing with that beautiful balance...And, we allow them to play "god"...then there is something very very wrong. Monsanto has to be stopped. I do my part in the only way I know how. I don't buy conventional corn, I don't buy processed foods, I shop at the farmers market and a local food coop. I also go into conventional "grocery" stores and ask if their corn is GMO. Safeway was honest. The produce guy in QFC didn't know and suggested I call corporate, so I did. The "customer service rep" was a dumb as a box of rocks and the bigwigs refused to give me a "definitive" answer. I will NEVER shop there again.

Then, for those who may be into Sichen, maybe this gmo...playing god...is what caused the flood and such in the first place? Or something to the effect that you're not supposed to be messing with the dna of animals, plants and humans. My god, they're creating cows that make "human" breast milk. What is wrong with this picture? Is this not evil?

Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen... - Zbigniew Brezhinsky

June 14, 2011
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"Nesaie" wrote: I have my own personal theory about the bees. First, there is a province in China that has killed all their bees and humans hand pollinate plants.

http://apinews.morkland.org/2008/08/han ... n-sichuan/

Second, if the bee die off was caused by cell phones or cell towers, then it should be effecting organic bees too. It isn't.

http://www.celsias.com/article/organic- ... sorder-cc/

This colony collapse seems to only be effecting "conventionally" raised bees. The interesting thing about "conventionally" raised bees is that the bee keepers feed the bees high fructose corn syrup.

http://www.honeybeeworld.com/m.....p/feed.htm

Now, I believe this phenomenon has been happening since the early to mid 90's. That appears to be about the same time that gmo corn crops started growing in the US. I may be mistaken on my dates here, if so, please correct me. However, it is my personal theory that the gmo high fructose corn syrup is what is really murdering the bees. Considering 70% or so of the corn grown in the US is GMO, there is a high likelyhood that that hfcs is GMO.

A couple of articles about the harm from monsanto and GMOs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/1 ... 20365.html

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/06/rep ... antos.html

And let's not forget the fact that Monsanto is a chemical corporation that created agent orange and owns pfizer which bought up the rights to aspartame and owns saccharine too.

Oh, to get this back to the religion thingy, God created the bees, plants, flowers, dirt, rain, etc. When evil corporations start messing with that beautiful balance...And, we allow them to play "god"...then there is something very very wrong. Monsanto has to be stopped. I do my part in the only way I know how. I don't buy conventional corn, I don't buy processed foods, I shop at the farmers market and a local food coop. I also go into conventional "grocery" stores and ask if their corn is GMO. Safeway was honest. The produce guy in QFC didn't know and suggested I call corporate, so I did. The "customer service rep" was a dumb as a box of rocks and the bigwigs refused to give me a "definitive" answer. I will NEVER shop there again.

Then, for those who may be into Sichen, maybe this gmo...playing god...is what caused the flood and such in the first place? Or something to the effect that you're not supposed to be messing with the dna of animals, plants and humans. My god, they're creating cows that make "human" breast milk. What is wrong with this picture? Is this not evil?

I hear you all the way. Good stuff. Do you think the gmo/monsanto effect theory is not something so-called experts have considered? If there is a real common denominator between all the collapsed colonies and corn syrup, then these experts or whatever are fools not to look into it.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

June 15, 2011
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"frrostedman" wrote:
I hear you all the way. Good stuff. Do you think the gmo/monsanto effect theory is not something so-called experts have considered? If there is a real common denominator between all the collapsed colonies and corn syrup, then these experts or whatever are fools not to look into it.

That is a very logical question. Why would an "expert" not look into the cause of bee collapse due to Monsanto? Maybe because Monsanto is a government sanctioned mafia. Any "expert" who came out with facts and evidence that Monsanto is the cause of the bee die-off could lose their "expert" status, their jobs and possibly worse. To understand this, you have to understand how Monsanto operates. They intentionally intimidate small family farmers. After all, they can afford years of court cases. Small farmers can't.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Monsan.....armers.php

Here’s what typically happens to US farmers who fall under suspicion of planting saved seed. Private investigators from the Pinkerton agency hired by Monsanto arrive on the farm without warning, sometimes accompanied by local police. They then proceed to take samples and photographs over the course of a few hours to a few weeks, without the farmer being present.

One Mississippi farmer who runs a farm shop from his farmhouse was subjected to constant surveillance by Monsanto investigators who watched the family coming and going, warned off customers, and even rented an empty lot across the street from where to position their cameras.

Monsanto used entrapment to file a lawsuit against another farmer, when one of their investigators begged seeds from him to help solve an erosion problem too late in the season to plant crops. If personal intimidation fails, Monsanto resorts to another violation of privacy by sending a registered letter threatening to "tie the farmer up in court for years" if he refuses to settle out of court for patent infringement. One farmer who challenged this intimidation had his name blacklisted on thousands of seed dealers’ lists. He concedes, "It is easier to give into them than it is to fight them."

A further example is seed dealers who sell seeds in plain brown bags so farmers sow them unknowingly. This happened to Farmer Thomason who was harassed into court by Monsanto and sued for over a million dollars. He had no choice but to file for bankruptcy despite never intending to plant Bt cotton.

In 1999, The Washington Post reported that the number of farmers under investigation in US and Canada was 525. A later report confirmed that Monsanto was investigating 500 farmers in 2004 "as they do every year." Once a farmer agrees to settle out of court he may be forced to present all documents relating to farm activity within 24 hours of request, purchase a specific quantity of company product and disclose the names of other people that have saved company seed.

Monsanto has also hired Xe, formerly known as Blackwater, and is heavily invested in their stock.

http://www.truthistreason.net/biotech-t ... ist-groups

Why would a chemical corporation need a rogue mercenary group like Blackwater...oh...um...Xe? I guess they had to change their name when they got a bad rep.

The above merely touches on the mafia style that Monsanto employs. Let's look at their politics.

Aspartame was "discovered" by Searle. Donald Rumsfeld worked for them. For years Searle tried to get aspartame FDA approved. Unfortunately, for all the years of study of aspartame, too many animals died and became brain damaged.

http://www.dldewey.com/columns.....parstu.htm

But, in 1980 Reagan invited Rummy into his cabinet. Within a year aspartame suddenly was "fda approved". 🙄 Since then Pfizer bought Searle and Monsanto bought Pfizer.

And now, Michael Taylor from Monsanto is in the "fda"...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine ... 28792.html

Or, then there is Robert Stevens who used to work for Monsanto but is now part of the SPP.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6540

So, to recap, Monsanto intimidates farmers by using private mercenaries who illegally trespass on private property. They also make sure their executives get into "government" positions to influence our fascist government. After all, when corporations control politicians, that is fascism.

Now, an "expert" who doesn't want to endanger their reputation and continue being called an "expert" isn't going to go up against a force like Monsanto alone. To criticize Monsanto could be a career killer.

Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen... - Zbigniew Brezhinsky

June 15, 2011
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A few years ago, there was this impending doom that the killer bees from Texas would reach California in a few years, however the bee population has been dying off. I doubt its from big companies other than from result of global warming. I guess there is an argument that global warming is cause by big companies, poluting the atmosphere, ozone, and reducing rain forests. But there are also strong arguements that natural disasters have also lent to the global warming, as well as natural occurances in the average temp. worldwide. I would think bees would not be affected by any warming condition, but a cold condition would, but thats only a guess on my part.

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"Nesaie" wrote: [quote="frrostedman"]
I hear you all the way. Good stuff. Do you think the gmo/monsanto effect theory is not something so-called experts have considered? If there is a real common denominator between all the collapsed colonies and corn syrup, then these experts or whatever are fools not to look into it.

That is a very logical question. Why would an "expert" not look into the cause of bee collapse due to Monsanto? Maybe because Monsanto is a government sanctioned mafia. Any "expert" who came out with facts and evidence that Monsanto is the cause of the bee die-off could lose their "expert" status, their jobs and possibly worse. To understand this, you have to understand how Monsanto operates. They intentionally intimidate small family farmers. After all, they can afford years of court cases. Small farmers can't.

I get that. It's a factor for sure. It doesn't prove for a fact that the corn syrup is the result but it sure asks questions that need to be answered.

The article says that many causes for CCD have been considered, among them being "GM crops" and I have to assume they are talking about the subject you are discussing ("gmo"). They said that cause has "drawbacks," but they didn't elaborate.

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