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Detecting an Occult, Luciferian, Counterfeit Principle at work...in our daily lives.
August 27, 2016
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I was not sure if I should put this in the Religion and Spirituality thread . ..but chose for now to so do here.

 

I have become aware of three Counterfeit, Occult, Luciferian principles at work around us and in our daily lives.

By counterfeit..I mean logical, reasonable, sensible operating principles ...made close enough to pass for reason and logic...for which most people would not know it is a counterfeit.

Being a counterfeit ..it must needs look as close to the real thing as possible...without the "Mark" catching on to the con taking place.

Being a counterfeit...or backwards ..it's nature is Luciferian...backwards...a lie ..a deceit..not the product advertised...often a 180 degree flip flop without the "Mark" being able to so recognize it for what it is.

Occult means hidden...concealed...not recognizable ...camouflaged from what it really is ...long enough for the "Mark" not to recognize it and thus defend against it.

 

The first of these Occult, Luciferian, Counterfeits is this dogma they are teaching and preaching all across this land and being sponsored by the White House, The Pacific Education Group..and the Department of Education.

This dogma is titled..."White Privilege and White Guilt."

Here is how one recognizes it for the Luciferian Counterfeit and lie...deceit that it is.

First the Biblical principle is "By their Fruits shall ye know them."

 

Dr Martin Luther King taught ...."By the content of their character ...not by the colour of their skin."

Dr King's position is very close to the Bible position of "Fruit Inspecting."

Dr King's position was taught all across  this nation as I was coming up..in schools..across the news media...by leadership and politicians across this land.

 

Now today ..by reason, by Intellect, by logic, by enlightenment...by counterfeit public education non standards..we have substituted "By their fruits shall ye know them.." with ..."By their race shall ye know them.

Somewhere along the line ..someone has instituted a 180 degree turn around and gone back to racism....while trying to solve racism. They have become the thing they tried to stop...and further more they are using government to bully everyone else into going along with the Counterfeit position..the lie..the deceit.

You have to be educated to become so stupid ....that one thinks this is normal and even "Entitled." It is not ..it is a lie..a deception, a counterfeit, ..it is Occult..hidden right in front of us...yet tries to pass for normal.

One of the names among many of Lucifer..is "The Counterfeiter."

With the constant attempts to dumb down Americans...it can be difficult at times to spot such counterfeits...often right in front of us daily...but they are out there...

This is also an example of why the Bible is not desired to be allowed in public schools. If the Bible were there ..it would be easier for thinking students to recognize such counterfeits, lies, and deceptions by leadership to scam us and dumb us down.

Now the point in all this long explanation is that at one time the Government position was close to Dr. Martin Luther King's positon of "By the content of their character ..not the colour of their skin" which was very close to the Bible Position of "By their fruit shall ye know them."

Now the Government has clearly switched away from a Biblical Position..to a non Biblical position of "By their skin colour shall ye know them." The exact opposite of what once was.

When, where, and why did the United States Government switch positions and switch gods and not tell anyone they had so done??

When did logical, reasonable, educated, enlightened. and illuminated men switch to Lucifer..the fallen... and not tell anyone they had so done??

And this is not the first time this government has so done.

 

 More to come.

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August 28, 2016
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As usual you leave a lot for everyone to digest.  I'm not sure I see it in the exact way you discribe, but there is little doubt our society is trapped into a way of thinking and believing.  

Most people think of racism as the days of slavery, the way black people were treated will into the 60's when the civil rights act was passed. We are programed that only Black people were victims of racism, which is completly un true. My wife grew up in Newark, NJ, and it was very common and still today, where neighborhoods were black, but also other ethic identities, Italian, Polish, German, Japanese. Racism was not limited to blacks only.  

Today we are in a PC world, or having to regard everything we say as racist, and there is no shortage of everyone playing the race card. They do it by playing the victim card, as a defence or excuse for everything from not getting a job to why they robbed your house.  The world has turned into "coming out" by every celebrity in the world, that I was a victim of every ridiculous thing from being abused as a child to they are gay. Victim, victim, victim, feel sorry for me, feel sorry for me, otherwise something is wrong with you. Something is wrong with you if you do not feel sorry for and excuse bad behavior, making you the racist for wanting to send that black guy, gay guy, pusher or prositute to prison.  The race card and victim card are partners, and they have made everyone racists, for knowing right from wrong. 

Now plug this into today politics, and our Presidental race. We spent 8 years hearing if you supported GWB, you support torture, and responsible for sanctions killing 500,000 people. We have heard if you don't support Obama you are racists turning away 11,000,000 illegals, or were racists if you feared Syrian refugees could contain terrorists, and to just ignore the borders. That you were bigots, if you disagreed with gay marriage becasue you have a religous belief against homosexuality, you were homophobic. You herd everyone in life is a "bully", the most overused expression today.  We are programmed today to assume yourself is a racist, bigoted, bully, if you dare to speak out against the PC world of excuses.  

If you live in So California, you have heard this racist crap, if you as much as complain illegal immigration has bankrupted many or our hospitals misuning the emergency rooms and not paying, not having car insurance and driving, enrolling every child in school the taxpayers have to pay for.  You get branded as a racist for these things, because these people are just victims, and the right and wrong about sneeking into the country doesn't matter, it is not PC to not feel sorry for them.  You are guilted into forgetting right and wrong, by playing the race and victim card.  

What do you see today, but the branding of the right from the left, from every PC angle they can think of from racism to bigotry. What have we come to when you watch the vile and no boundry commercials linking Trump to the KKK, and every other below the belt TV paid propaganda, that the media allows?  Yes if you vote for Trump you must be a racist to, the left has no boundry of common decency, all while they make every excuse for proven corruption.  Poor Hillary has just been the victim for decades, its all made up, its womens rights you are daring to violate if you speak out against her.  

I don't know if its called a religion, but its disgusting how the race and victim card, PC world has killed this country. So the left demonized the person who dares to expose it all.  Make those who agree the bad guy, the racist, the bigot, feel guilty, and force them to think they just have white privilage. 

August 29, 2016
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Greeny2,

 

It is indeed disgusting..and more so once you realize the totality of what they have done.

 

In particular they have made merchandize of all people....stealing their very souls to this phony template.

And they have so done and continue to so do to the most vulnerable..our school age children with this phony racist template they are pushing on the undefended and those of tender years..insufficient in years to build character.

 

All of this is confusion...deliberate confusion which is also one of the names for Lucifer..the author of confusion...the counterfeiter....the liar and deceiver.

 

White Guilt and White Privilege is a total 180 degree reversal of Dr Kings position which is also a variation of the Biblical position of "By their fruits shall ye know  them.

 

All of these concepts, knowledge's, and understanding make clear that our government has switched gods from the God of the  Bible..to the god of this world..the counterfeiter, the liar, and the deceiver..the author of confusion.

This did not start with this current administration ..but has only accelerated..to where it becomes more noticeable.

 

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September 2, 2016
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Greeny2,

 

Excellent point you have brought out here on this thread...

 

 Most people think of racism as the days of slavery, the way black people were treated will into the 60's when the civil rights act was passed. We are programed that only Black people were victims of racism, which is completly un true. My wife grew up in Newark, NJ, and it was very common and still today, where neighborhoods were black, but also other ethic identities, Italian, Polish, German, Japanese. Racism was not limited to blacks only.   

It seldom occurs to people, so heavily ingrained is the guilt surrounding slavery, to think outside the box. And neither do the Republicans/Conservatives teach their voters to so do.

It never occurs to people about the scam that someone out here is doing to bring in the "New Normal" such that people recognize this pattern of "White Privilege and White Guilt" as bondage or slavery if you like. A complete 180 degree turn around from what Dr. Martin Luther King taught.This and the bondage/confusion it is causing is why it is luciferian.

Again..one has to be conditioned or brainwashed...educated into believing in it...dumbed down if you prefer. Think long and seriously on this as there are many educated teachers/professors teaching this from their classroom pulpits as normal. Very few can recognize that they are teaching open luciferianism....as the new normal

 

Think this is all there is....the gay movement....identifying themselves by their sex and sexuality....as the new normal..and willing to hold the entire country and people hostage with the blessings of government. Again you have to be educated to buy into this kind of stupid. ...as normal.

How do I know this ...I do not have to accept a heterosexual on the basis for their sex and sexuality/sexual orientation. But no one teaches this in order to get today's bondage to pass as normal by emotionally causing dissonance in people in lieu of real thinking., Dissonance ....emotions...guilt...in lieu of real thinking.

Again .the so called Republican Conservatives are totally silent on this. They are in on the bullying and hostage taking. This is Ishmael...in bondage with her children. In bondage to sex and sexuality...not desired and is in essence the spiritual rape of a whole nation.

 

The Feminists...getting someone else to pay for their abortions and now contraceptioin...holding the whole nation hostage to their  sex and sexuality. Bullying just like these other two groups..and again the Republcans/Conservatives are totally silent on this and do not teach their flocks.

Bondage...in bondage with their children....this is Ishmael...Greeny2...not Isaac.

 

In Isaac shall thy seed be called. Not in Ishmael.

All of these groups are bullying and the government is going along with it to hold the rest of the nation hostage to their bullying....in bondage.

Again you have to be educated in the propaganda to not see it for what it is...all of it luciferian in nature....Bondage. Holding the rest  of America Hostage by the purse strings and by votes.

I am not an Ishmaelite.

 

In Isaac shall thy seed be called,

 

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September 2, 2016
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and how do you propose detecting Catholic pedophiles, or how about detecting people who would use Nazi tactics to kill and destroy Palestinians?

 

Let us all reflect on the evils associated with all religious quackery and take a deep breath.

September 3, 2016
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Fourbore

 and how do you propose detecting Catholic pedophiles, or how about detecting people who would use Nazi tactics to kill and destroy Palestinians?

 

Let us all reflect on the evils associated with all religious quackery and take a deep breath. 

 

I think you meant here ...let us all reflect on evils associated with people who use Nazi tactics to kill people going about their daily business...like in suicide bombings ...rocket attacks...et al. People who idolize the Nazi pattern of operation...or the communist pattern of operation...Da Tovarich??

You know...like "All lives Matter??"

You did mean to say that right???

I can do "Drama" too in order to get my political points across and deflect from the whole picture for my "Favorites" and thus thinking people do not know enough to connect all the dots.

I too can manufacture a bad guy to support my political and social biases...ie...drama. SJW's.

 

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September 3, 2016
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I live a simple life with little influence on world problems. But when I review world problems I see religious nuts being the source of hate. I see America's government expense overpoweringly swayed to support of the military which is killing people all over the world for reasons that do not make sense, usually tied to the religious nuts. Logically; the religious nuts are the cause of hatred, war, and overall misery. I have read the bible and studied some parts of it. Gotta be unhinged to get sucked into that whirlpool of lies.

September 3, 2016
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Maybe part of the problem is that the media may be more of the problem, by taking what is a small story and blowing it up, on a international stage, every single day, so no wonder what you are programed to believe.  The Black Lives Matter movement has now been excalated into at least a nationwide division of racism over 2 words--Black and All.  

You point out Catholic Pedifiles, as if they were the only pedifiles in religion or other positions of trust. The real facts are, real Catholic Pedifiles are nowhere near the preception, becasue of the bloodthirsty attorneys who specialize in this, find one or two legitimate cases, and the bandwaggon of bullshit cases join in the class action suits, knowing they will get settlements. Statistics are the the numbers of insurance claim for Catholic Pedifile settlements are no higher than, other reiligions, but you never hear about Jewish, or Baptists. I posted a thread about JW's. The media now has people thinking its only Catholics and they are all pedifiles, far far far from the truth. Other insurance claims include teachers, scout leaders, other trust positions. 

There are religious nuts everywhere, the middle east is obviously a danger to everyone and its spreading. We have a few of our own too.  Not sure what the answer is, however I do know it has nothing to do with my Faith, belief in God, and how I live a good life. We have churches from coast to coast, and teacher, scout leaders, and clergymen coast to coast, who do not resemble any of these extemists. 

September 3, 2016
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Fourbore,

 I live a simple life with little influence on world problems. But when I review world problems I see religious nuts being the source of hate. I see America's government expense overpoweringly swayed to support of the military which is killing people all over the world for reasons that do not make sense, usually tied to the religious nuts. Logically; the religious nuts are the cause of hatred, war, and overall misery. I have read the bible and studied some parts of it. Gotta be unhinged to get sucked into that whirlpool of lies. 

I try to live a simple life as well. My problem is everywhere I look I see people with an obvious television and movie education/a public school education who are manufacturing a bad guy onto whom to place blame for all the ills of the world.

 

This part of  your post clearly illustrates the M1A propaganda line of todays education system..in television and movies..The Simple life...

  I see America's government expense overpoweringly swayed to support of the military which is killing people all over the world for reasons that do not make sense, usually tied to the religious nuts.

Out military has been severely cut back in the last 8 years..what are you even talking about here.

Our government is heavily subsidizing other governments like Mexico by taking on all their unwanted and unemployable at the expense of our people through taxes or inflationary money creation in order to subsidize all these illegals being allowed to come across the border and at the taxpayer's expense.

This too can include all the middle eastern refugees...being imported carte blanche and also put on the government/public tit.

What I am describing here is a war on the American People themselves.

 

The military has been cut back drastically the last 8 years. What  are you possibly thinking here??

 

Not all of us are so dumb that we do not realize that we could totally get rid of our military and spend all the monies on more tit for everyone in the world ..carte blanche..and very quickly it would not be enough. ..they would want and need more to buy votes from these people they are putting on the said tit.

Think I am gaslighting someone here...just look at England, France, and Germany. These nations are in chaos of their own making...and our government and leadership is no smarter. Their tit is going dry..and their governmets are so stupid they expect their people to pay for more.

They are willing to hold their own people hostage to giving more tit to everyone and their own native people to take second, third and fourth place in their own country.

Their own people are no longer safe in their own country. Just ask any Frenchman after what happened in Niece.

 

I suggest very strongly you read up on Democide before going off on a rant on this thread...

Not everyone here is stuck on the blame game or on a time warp version of history. We can see around the corners and in the dark here.

Their own governments in England, France, and Germany are putting their own people in a position to carry out democide on their native people at the hands of the people they are importing. Democide...disarmed helpless native people...at the hands of government tit financing this invasion.

And our own  government is no smarter.

 

Here..Democide..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

 

Whenever one deals with Humanist as well as atheists..you quickly find that they know very little history as well as never heard of Democide..death by ones own government.

But they love science and technology and tend towards worshipping at that altar for the solution to the world's problems as if this is a source of making us better people. Not so.

Keep on manufacturing bad guys Fourbore. Watch where this thread goes.

Our own government has to be educated to be this stupid ..only education can dumb a people down this far in government as to hold our own people hostage to something they do not want and something they do not want to pay for. Then use/misuse the media including the internet to obfuscate and build up a bad guy on which to focus manufactured wrath...to hide what they are really doing...promoting a government religion ...contrary to Amendment 1 and without most of the people being perceptive sufficient to recognize it.

Some of us have caught on long ago to the good cop/bad cop pattern and we see you doing it in your posts.

We can also see our own leadership doing exactly the template you are doing here...manufacturing a bad guy in order to distract the people from what our own government is doing in scamming all of us with their manufactured bad guys.

What they are doing is one of the oldest tricks in the book...but brought up to date on a gullible people by technology. It is still the same olde scam. Manufacturing a bad guy and betting no one sees what you are doing.

 

My .02,

Orangetom

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