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Ala. Gov. apologizes for a Christian stance?
January 20, 2011
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Why did he apologize? I don't get it. Who are these critics that are complaining? If some Muslim stood up there and said I'm not his brother because I'm not Muslim, I would say, "Amen to that!"

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama — Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley apologized Wednesday for his remarks about only Christians being his brothers and sisters.

Bentley said he didn't mean to insult anyone when he told a church crowd on Monday that those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior are not his brothers and sisters, shocking some critics who questioned whether he can be fair to non-Christians.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41149562/ns ... _politics/

January 20, 2011
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One absolutely CAN be fair to those outside his family. If not, then all lawmakers should step down.

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January 20, 2011
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Jesus wouldn't have made a distinction between those who subscribe to a particular organized faith and others who don't. I think he would have viewed everyone as a fellow sister and brother.

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January 20, 2011
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"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, just moments into his new administration, according to The Birmingham News.

People shouldn't have a problem with this statement unless
this man or others see Christ as something he is not, in which reflects
the conflict in his statement. Other than that,
nothing to retract but rather stand firm in.

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astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
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memory works both ways.”
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January 20, 2011
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"Aquarian" wrote: Jesus wouldn't have made a distinction between those who subscribe to a particular organized faith and others who don't. I think he would have viewed everyone as a fellow sister and brother.

Yeah, any distinctions made would be according to Love.

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January 20, 2011
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"sandra" wrote:

"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, just moments into his new administration, according to The Birmingham News.

People shouldn't have a problem with this statement unless
this man or others see Christ as something he is not, in which reflects
the conflict in his statement. Other than that,
nothing to retract but rather stand firm in.

I think his statement was elitist, insulting, and offending. He is saying Christ would only accept people who become Christian, but we know Christianity is man's organized religion, not Christ's. He comes across as arrogant, close-minded, and even divisive. If God is real, he/she/it will reveal him/her/it self to every individual in a different way, not necessarily through doctrinal adherence.

The Few assume to be the deputies, but they are often only the despoilers of the Many.
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January 20, 2011
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"Aquarian" wrote: [quote="sandra"]

"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, just moments into his new administration, according to The Birmingham News.

People shouldn't have a problem with this statement unless
this man or others see Christ as something he is not, in which reflects
the conflict in his statement. Other than that,
nothing to retract but rather stand firm in.

I think his statement was elitist, insulting, and offending. He is saying Christ would only accept people who become Christian, but we know Christianity is man's organized religion, not Christ's. He comes across as arrogant, close-minded, and even divisive. If God is real, he/she/it will reveal him/her/it self to every individual in a different way, not necessarily through doctrinal adherence.

Yes I understand those points, I'd agree thats how it appears and how it
could be taken or how it is. And at the same time, who in the truth
is very willing to accept each and every other person as
their brother and sister? Not many.
Explain how the world is
living as one big happy family with this man being
offensive to their love for one another?
How do you as well know that he is speaking
from a point of organized religion?
Most People don't know doctrinal adherence anyways.

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astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

January 20, 2011
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I wonder what would happen if you asked a religious Christian politician, the Catholic JFK for example, deep down what do they feel is going to happen to non-believers, what they would be forced to admit. This dude just opened up and said it. Why can't a politician be a member of a religion? Of course, he is bound by the law and the constitutions, but apart from that he should be free to have his own opinions even if they are divisive. It wasn't particularly wise to admit he feels that way, given the criticism he should have known he'd face and that it has had a polarizing effect, in terms of political gain. He obviously wasn't shooting for political gain here and I actually admire that he was willing to state what his religious views are.

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January 20, 2011
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Yes I understand those points, I'd agree thats how it appears and how it
could be taken or how it is. And at the same time, who in the truth
is very willing to accept each and every other person as
their brother and sister? Not many.
Explain how the world is
living as one big happy family with this man being
offensive to their love for one another?
How do you as well know that he is speaking
from a point of organized religion?
Most People don't know doctrinal adherence anyways.

I believe those who are actively willing to fight against the negative "byproducts" of Ego are more likely to accept humanity as their sisters and brothers. I think it's pretty logical to deduce that we are all One and that everything and everyone in the Biosphere is connected. I am positive he speaks of it from organized religion because he mentioned he does not consider non-Christians his brothers. What does that mean? Buddhists, Muslims, Janists, Hindus, Catholics, Wiccans, etc. aren't his brothers and sisters. The religions I mentioned are organized religions yet, they are all different ritualistic and interpretative paths/realizations of "God". Jesus wouldn't have discriminated between religious organizations, I believe.

The Few assume to be the deputies, but they are often only the despoilers of the Many.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

January 20, 2011
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Agreed. However you and I both know this
is not common stance. Even if spoken,
many times people talk the talk, and
thats about all they are made of.
Useless talk, no doing. No experience
in living accordingly to those truths,
just empty thoughts floating around
that need to be punctured.

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

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