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A quote I like
February 7, 2011
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“If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.(Gospel of St. Thomas)”

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

February 8, 2011
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"sandra" wrote: “If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.(Gospel of St. Thomas)”

Yea,good quote and very true.From what I've learned it's meaning,while once criptic to me is now simple reality.

"What is IN you=Your Spirit,piece of Him,"The Light in the world" ,as a child..Now as you (from dust here,the outer,or shell,are of your mother,a small her,growing into One like her.),that piece within you,here to mature,as time matures your shell into a mature body..The inner you..so to grow,to be like it's Daddy.Some call it "the inner child",which often gets damaged,But IS the Light,or Son Of Man/Women,Whichever name one prefers.As evidenced by your emotions,which no other creature here shares..Do creatures get bored?..No.See?

So,do you care for your "Child within",or call self names,beat self down,think self "not good enough,no "value"..Snuff out th e light within,"The Child of Man"..Hate self or Love self?See.

Treat it well,let it grow within,nuture it,love it..Then if one does,it Blends with it,into One.The dust,you.The vessel absorbs into the "piece within"..If it CHOOSES to..Blend with the piece and you go Home when He calls His OWN Home."...Do not,Dust back to Dust,the piece still goes Home to its Daddy,more mature than when it left.

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you"....Exactly,think,"Hitch a ride on a star."..If blended,by ones own FREE WILL..IF One?You always go wherever it goes,as it now gets to go whever you go.

What does it "save" you from?..Death.The piece never dies,its of Him,its Father,eternal.We?Dust with an opportunity to become eternal,or.... die as we were born.Here,from earth,dust.Facing death as we were also born.

"If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

Yes,kill the light in you.Do evil things,have hate in your mind.Shut down your emotions.Hate SELF,and others.Deny help to those with nothing.All mean one is doing the same thing.Denying what the piece within tells ALL.Compassion,forgiveness,Help your brethren in the hell of growing.Guide him,be a light,use your light to show them the way out of the dark they have gotten into with their hate,their confusion that makes them hate the Light within them.To not trust it nor "believe in its words".

In short he means..Blend with the gift given you,LISTEN to its advice,it knows the Fathers will.That it is within your own mind,the "Holy of Holies".In the very center of the brain,its Throne.Do so and it will "Save" you from true death.It never "dies".
Don't "Bring it Forth"?..You will die the death."Destroyed"...

And by their fruits you will tell them apart.When one denies their light,or snuffs it out of their own free will.You will know them,they will lack compassion,hate others,hate self,only live to be a pain in others asses.And enjoy it.Chaos a drug,so they may "feel" something again,to feel anything once again because they have felt nothing since they killed their light.

I can't prove it,but I'm fairly certain that is what Thomas means.He's the 4th place I've heard the same advice.He just leaves alot of detail out.But when your "piece" read it,it like it,because it KNOWS its true.It knows He means Her.She KNOW she the thing "within" that he speaks about.

Here's another way to say what Thomas was saying:

"1782-1Turn within, rather than holding to something above self. For know, the promise is that He shall meet thee within thine own temple. The technique, then, was in error. It is not above self, but within. For as ye raise the consciousness to that within self, He meeteth thee in thine own tabernacle, in the holy of holies; in the third eye, - NOT above same! (1782-1) Female 64 1/5/1939 "

Cayce-

Thomas just warned about what happens if you don't,destruction of self.At one's own hand,not wrath.

Here's same same,different source.John gave the same warning.And advice.:

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.”...
-John 3-

We all have the "Son/Daughter" within.The "inner child" many like to call it.The seat of your emotions resides within this "God jr."

As they said,"The Son of God has become the Son of Mankind"..We all have our very own little him/her to care for,listen to,blend with.Or prove we cannot coexist with,which means we cannot coexist with its Daddy,they the same.Our choice,not His,not hers/his depending on your sex..lol.

February 9, 2011
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words of wisdom

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

February 9, 2011
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I'm just wondering what if what's within is pure evil, though I may be misunderstanding it.

Is this from a gnostic text, gospel of Thomas?

"it is easy to grow crazy"

February 9, 2011
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'evil' is relative..
I kid

but what I remember from Gnostic stuff..haven't read it in a while..is not so much that what's inside is evil..just that it isn't and could never be perfect (because it was created in imperfection and delusion)
Which is probably where orgional sin comes from.
According to Gnosticism this world was created by a false God and our only escape from it is to reject it.
This is how all the refuse the 'pleasures and vanites of the flesh' stuff origionally comes from

these things are supposedly what tie our souls to this false world in which we have been entrapped by a false God..that the 'one true god' wants us to be released from it and the clutches of the insane thing that believes it is God (but is not)that created this world and entrapped us in it...so says Gnosticism

this is way over simplifying, but that the gist

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

February 9, 2011
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so to 'bring fourth what is (truly) in you' could mean to bring that understanding..that we are all suppose to have deep down..under layers of delusion, BS, illusion..etc...

seems to me that is happening..which is why more stories a la The Matrix come out all the time..a realization might be dawning upon us, as a group

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

February 9, 2011
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"bionic" wrote: so to 'bring fourth what is (truly) in you' could mean to bring that understanding..that we are all suppose to have deep down..under layers of delusion, BS, illusion..etc...

seems to me that is happening..which is why more stories a la The Matrix come out all the time..a realization might be dawning upon us, as a group

Could be understanding as you say.But to simplify,it already understands.It knows everything you have ever seen,ever thought.Things that you saw as a small child,long gone from your memory.Like a book,were all lessons it learns are kept,every memory/With no concept of time.It here to learn.

Doctors call it "subconcious",exactly,a conciousness you are unaware of.It holds many things.Wisdom being foremost.Its daddy wise too.lol

Question being,can you love it,abide it,in your mind.It says "don't,thats wrong",do you listen?,you feel its message,or ignore it,tamp it down to follow your wordly "instinct" and take from your brother/sister?

Can you raise your own self?..Help others as you have been helped?It understands,we struggle.lol..But if we can raise ourselves to a place within,more learning to "agree" with its message.Not just do it,but of our own free will,then we become attuned to that piece within..Then the mind is from 2 to One.."We Agree"....Not just know wrong or right but WHY.Wisdom

The understanding of the piece is limitless.It even remembers what it calls "Home".What its like,how it feels.Deep in the "subconcious" or so they like to call it now,the Son/Daughter within= subconcious.Funny.

But tap into it,raise self up by understanding the Law and Laws?..You will be as ONE,you know all it knows as it already knows everything you know..."The memory from the creation of the world" cayce calls it.

You are definitly getting the gist.I'm glad,hard to explain through all the the misunderstood symbology we have been taught.

There are many quotes "misunderstood" and taught backasswards.Here are some,my writing in mind,makes perfect sense.I'll post a few.

February 9, 2011
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"at1with0" wrote: I'm just wondering what if what's within is pure evil, though I may be misunderstanding it.

Is this from a gnostic text, gospel of Thomas?

No,what is within is pure Light.We all start with it.It can be made dark through mistreatment and hatred of it.Which in our minds is Self Hate.It is good.Think a godling.His baby need ing to go to school to learn lessons.Forgiveness and WHY,compassion and WHY.That piece,only knowin Home,is "spoiled".It,as angels,can follow arule,but never understanding WHY its a rule.It would grow into one as its father but kinda dumb as to the WHYs.

But I ask about the evil ones to.Think,build a wall around that piece.Wall it off,never hear the message again.Put it in the darkness of a room with no doors,no windows.Solitary confinment.Eventually,it will become very depressed,suicidal,as dark as its host.But not evil.Evil comes as the result of living cut off from your light,and it from you.Many do it to cope with emotional pain they just can't deal with and the result?..the same.Can do anything to anyone with no remorse.No light=no regret,remorse or pain other than the punishment we give them.They even deserve sympathy,imagine how it feels...no light,no emotion,no Life or Living.As intended.They screwed themselves,so now they screw the innocent victim.Just to feel something again.Sad.Thats what makes them evil.The outer becomes evil without the Little One within.The one within is pure,good,as its Daddy Is good,pure..It Loves the host but the host killed it.Free will.The evil show Him,with a chance,it will Kill Him too.It shows what it is,the dark.A "murderer and Liar from the beginning."A wolf in sheeps clothing".Desirous to Kill the light within and without if given the free will to do so.They CANT abide,with Him,or others like him.

February 9, 2011
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"bionic" wrote: 'evil' is relative..
I kid

but what I remember from Gnostic stuff..haven't read it in a while..is not so much that what's inside is evil..just that it isn't and could never be perfect (because it was created in imperfection and delusion)
Which is probably where orgional sin comes from.
According to Gnosticism this world was created by a false God and our only escape from it is to reject it.
This is how all the refuse the 'pleasures and vanites of the flesh' stuff origionally comes from

these things are supposedly what tie our souls to this false world in which we have been entrapped by a false God..that the 'one true god' wants us to be released from it and the clutches of the insane thing that believes it is God (but is not)that created this world and entrapped us in it...so says Gnosticism

this is way over simplifying, but that the gist

At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all,sorry,lol.The words are TRUTH.We have forced ourselves to need to be here.well,the outer us didn't,but the soul needs a vessel to carry it through here so anyways,the soul commited the "original sin",which from my lessons=self gratification.Selfishness.Thinking of self first,others second or not at all.Our souls,while little' Hims,were very self centered,like my 3 year old,"MINE",not share well,or play well with others.She needs to learn lessons too.sheesh.But,with time,teaching,and getting bit back,she'll learn.She'll empathize,sympathize and "do onto others..." lol.

The "False God"..? Us.Each a God unto Himself,or so we think.

Our "delusion"?...We can do it on our own,don't need anybodys help.Not His,not others...
..ME BIG!..lol...Too big in the pants maybe?

""According to Gnosticism this world was created by a false God and our only escape from it is to reject it.""

Reject that WE control.That we don't need.That I am first and its every man for himself,like a earthly animal.Belief in Ourselves only,first,and the Law of the jungle rules.That there is nothing Bigger than self.

The Dark IS God here.Always looking,always hunting,to snuff out any Light it sees in peril.If it gains,you stay here.With it,rather than "escaping",and hitchin a ride Home,were you belong.

February 9, 2011
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"bionic" wrote: so to 'bring fourth what is (truly) in you' could mean to bring that understanding..that we are all suppose to have deep down..under layers of delusion, BS, illusion..etc...

Yup thats it.Thats exactly what this means.

" For as ye raise the consciousness to that within self, He meeteth thee in thine own tabernacle"

Raise it up to that pieces level,and He can "abide with thee",your tabernacle being the mind you've always had.His frequency is so high,you must be at that same frequency,or vibration,so as to not die.Remember in the Bible,after the ressurection,they wanted to touch Him,he told them not to,if they do they will fall over dead,electrocuted.His current so high and they couldn't handle the amount of current,it would stop their hearts.Same applies to electricity in your brain,as science shows.It can't even handle 220,or the electric chair.

What is the ONLY pure white Light?.....Electricity..Watch a welder weld,you won't see for days and your eyes will burn like they are on fire.Its called "welders flash" and you do NOT want it.Hurts like hell...lol.

When you see lightning..Thats as close to Him as you will ever see ,here anyway.When you see lightning,do you feel the well up inside you? the fear,the awe?...How good it is to fall asleep during a lightning storm?..Comforting?

The piece,it remembers when it sees it.You don't get to know why,but you always feel whatever it feels.Just something to think about 😀

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