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A Note From a Neutral Party
June 18, 2010
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First:

Take a deep breath. I'm going to share my opinion. Opinions are neither correct or incorrect. If I forget to a actually say it, please put an "I feel" (meaning me not you) in front of it. You may agree or disagree with me, and that's fine, all I ask is for a moment to share my thoughts.

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First off, I will say that I don't believe in a higher power, or God or gods or man. I feel that anyone who does needs to feel that there is a reason that humans are here on earth, that someone has the answers, that there is someone bigger or "higher" than them to love them or punish them according to rules that were written by men whether with "divine inspiration" or not. I also believe that it is their beliefs that comfort them and enable them to live a life full of joy, wonder, and more peace of mind than those that have no such belief. All of these things are intangible.

Now, on the seemingly opposite end of the spectrum, are people that do not feel there is a higher being. They believe in the tangible or theoretically tangible. The sciences, that of the world around us. I feel that people who believe only in that which can be perceived with the five or six senses need to experience the world as it is, or could be. They have a need to understand first-hand how the world works, why we are here, the boundaries by which we are restricted in the physical world. I believe they can live a life full of wonder and happiness as well, though I believe their peace of mind is rarely achieved for the "scientific mind" is always questing for an answer they do not choose to accept from a non-physical being, or the interpretations made by men on behalf of the being.

What do I believe? Honestly, I'm not sure what to believe. I feel there is an energy in everything, some call "spirit" or "soul". Since energy does not just stop being energy, I believe it must go somewhere. I don't know where. A version of heaven or Hell? Back to a large energy source, maybe a "god" like amount? And why are we here? Is there a reason? Must there be a reason? Why can we not just have come into being? Could there have been a god that created us, tried to guide our consciences and left us to our own devices to see how we did? Any of these are possible.

The point is, we all must decide for ourselves. No matter what we believe, its all a matter of personal faith: in God, Allah, Shiva, science, Yahweh, other men or ourselves. Share diverse views. Feel that your view is the only correct one. Debate on similarities and differences. However I do not feel that telling someone they are wrong or stupid or an idiot is the way to share beliefs and exchange information. We are all people. We are physically programmed for the same basic thing - to live. I believe when we cannot tolerate each other's ideas and feelings it is the death of the human spirit and the peace of mind and heart we all crave.

Just my two cents.

June 18, 2010
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Great post. I couldn't have worded it better myself.

June 18, 2010
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Yes, it's called free will. We are free to believe whatever we want. For the record, I may believe that others are wrong, and have said so, but I don't believe I have ever called anyone stupid or an idiot. That usually comes from the non-believing sector.

June 18, 2010
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My beliefs:

I believe the non-believing sector is a bunch of stupid idiots.

I believe the non-believing sector should be rounded up, air-dropped into the Gulf oil spill, and set ablaze. Then, while they are floating on the muck, flailing their burning arms and screaming for someone to put them out, the believers should patrol around in boats and oblige them; with well-sharpened pitch forks.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

June 18, 2010
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"Rollin_Round" wrote: Take a deep breath. I'm going to share my opinion. Opinions are neither correct or incorrect.

In my opinion, the moon is made from sausage meat.

It's good to know I can have ridiculous opinions that cannot be incorrect!

"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

- Sam Harris

June 18, 2010
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"humphreys" wrote: [quote="Rollin_Round"]Take a deep breath. I'm going to share my opinion. Opinions are neither correct or incorrect.

In my opinion, the moon is made from sausage meat.

Thanks for corroborating line 1 of my beliefs.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

June 18, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: [quote="humphreys"][quote="Rollin_Round"]Take a deep breath. I'm going to share my opinion. Opinions are neither correct or incorrect.

In my opinion, the moon is made from sausage meat.

Thanks for corroborating line 1 of my beliefs.

I agree completely. Anyone who does not believe the moon is made from sausage is a complete moron.

"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

- Sam Harris

June 18, 2010
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You really are a stupid idiot.

Sausage doesn't light up at night, AND it doesn't have Swiss cheese-like holes in it.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

June 18, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: Sausage doesn't light up at night, AND it doesn't have Swiss cheese-like holes in it.

The holes are where angels tasted it, and it lights up at night cause that's when god has his barbecue.

"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

- Sam Harris

June 19, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: My beliefs:

I believe the non-believing sector is a bunch of stupid idiots.

I believe the non-believing sector should be rounded up, air-dropped into the Gulf oil spill, and set ablaze. Then, while they are floating on the muck, flailing their burning arms and screaming for someone to put them out, the believers should patrol around in boats and oblige them; with well-sharpened pitch forks.

frrostedman,

This is what the RCC believed and their history tells. This is not Christian. The Christian practice is to separate..come out from amongst them and be ye seperate.

This is also what was practiced by a branch of the Church at Rome..called The Anglican Church. Also the Lutherains at times did this too. You can find this in John Foxxe and his book of Martyrs as to who was persecuting Christians and how they conducted themselves. All the time claiming to be Christian while killing,burning, slaughtering Christians. Astonishing and sad ..but true.

Come out from amongst them and be ye separate. The very thing this world and the god of this world do not want people to do. They must needs by any method attempt to drag Believers across the aisle to the side of the world and the god of this world. There are lots of legions out here attempting to do this.

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