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encounter: how to stop them from taking your kid?
April 25, 2018
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greeney2
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Sounds like John was right, you had your mind made up. Good luck and hope your child gets the proper help. 

Glad you are so sure of your words Humaine! 

"So sorry to read what your child and you are living...of course this is not at all a nightmare, it is obvious to anyone who have heard about abductions. No doubt!" 

April 25, 2018
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If ever there was one per cent doubt, what's the problem to give someone something ( only words ) to defend himself? Have I said something dangerous? anything who could make any problem? 

I do respect the parents who are suffering about something, and I only tried to help with my own experience. I thought we were all here to bring some help, and to make things change, not for some intellectual pleasure. I have no time to waste, and if it is useless, then I stop loosing my time and my energy.

Let me tell you my pragmatic way of thinking :

1. I am a therapist, and I am used to listen someone who is suffering. I am used to listen too, every kind of dreams and nightmares, and this during 25 years. I am a specialist of hypnosis and I never use it to look after abductions because I know how human minds can be influenced by something we can believe. I thing I am a serious person, but it's ok, you can doubt about me and my certainty:)

2. very important : This child said : "the third "x" grabbed me, darker "x". I was able to swing my hand towards the 2nd "x" grey one and lightly smack it. it some weird noise and looked at me "scary".

I have seen several times EXACTLY the same evidence from people being held by the greys (held by his two wrists), and fighting physically, and hitting the grey, it was pushed away and made a bizarre sound, and looked scary...

So when I say something, it is not just by chance, but because the similar stories I could hear are  the same ones that this one, and so my logical sense of analysis gives me some conclusion.

I have to say my husband had this experience at night a few weeks ago, and to free his wrists, he knocked this "thing" very strong with his head, and then everything stopped.

3. Are you an abductee? I am, or I should say I was...(now I am strong enough to say "no")and I had physical marks (I showed it to my family, it wasn't a dream!)  three red points near my ombiliculus, I was 28 (I am now 54) and all my life long, I have ignored what it could have been untill I studied abductions. I have had often bruises on my body on mornings I couldn't explain, now I know. I miscarried four times during my life. When a little girl, I was shaking in my bed, knowing "they" were about to arrive, and even if I did cry and I shouted "no please no", they will take me as an object, through the window of my room. SO I thing I can have an humble advice about abductions.

 

So indeed, I am sorry to say I have no doubt about this poor little child...and I am very sad to say it, and I wish I could protect every little child of the world from these bad ETs!

But of course, all doctors in the world would say the child had a nightmare, because when we don't know something, we can't identify it. I am sure a man who lived in the Middle ages would thing we are all crazy to believe there are little beings everywhere, what we call "microbes", he would laugh at us, or he would hate us to say that, or even he would try to kill us thinking we are "evil" to say such an horrible thing, just because it is a reality he can see, and something his brain can't even imagine.

But, don't worry, I did learn my lesson, I won't speak here anymore 🙂 

April 25, 2018
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I have no idea why you say you aren't welcome here.

The top alien abduction researchers in the world would also recommend to seek psychological help just as a starting point to ensure what may be going on, is not a delusion or imaginary.  There is a high percentage of claims of this type, which are just that, a delusion.

That is NOT meant to say that is the case here with this person seeking help, and that does NOT mean the child is not experiencing something ET related or paranormal. However, for the safety of the child, there should be help sought off of a internet message forum (even though I am biased and think highly of this board and the people within it). 

There is nothing wrong with the recommendation a doctor is seen, because as mainstream science is put to the test, and they can't truly explain what is going on (meaning, is there physical evidence, bruising, scoop marks, etc. that can be further tested) that will only go to STRENGTHEN and SUPPORT a claim such as this.

Resorting ONLY to a message forum for psychological guidance and help, and not entertain any other forms of help in the real world, is doing an injustice to not only the child -- but to the field of ET/abduction/encounter research.

You aren't forced to leave because we disagree -- but if you choose to -- no one will stop you.  You are welcome here, however. ALL sides are welcome.  It would be unfair to allow you to offer psychological advise, while shielding others from making a different suggestion. 

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May 4, 2018
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Please keep advising people from your experiences, don't let one ignorant person stop the good you can do.

Drs can't help you if they don't believe you. They'll tell you that you somehow gave yourself the marks, it's was all a bad dream. You just aren't thinking straight etc...here, take this. 

We need people to be open and honest about this subject or it'll remain a problem for those of us being abducted.

April 26, 2018
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This was a first post on a introduction forum, and cry for help, limited details, immediately after the middle of the night episode( since dream is rejected) happened. Like any cry about addiction, suicide, or other medical, or psychological experience, I stand by what I said about consulting the doctor. I/we are not medically qualified, unless you are a trained legitimate and licensed person in the medical field. 

If this person contacted someone privately, fine and dandy, I just hope who they are are a legitimately a licenced MFCC, and qualified to make some level of true medical decisions.  

Best of Luck to MVP and the child.

April 26, 2018
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Thank you John for taking the time to answer...

I perfectly know how we are free to speak here, John! thank you for that 🙂

I haven't said I am not welcome here, I just think we haven't the same reaction, when faced to this kind of problem, and I guessed the parents who asked for some help, did react as I did, just dissapointed not to be really heard, they said : "thank you for nothing"...I suppose asking for some help on such a site, with specialists who have worked on UFOs and ETs during all these years, they did hope something else.

But maybe it was a misunderstanding, just a distorsion between the ones who know abductions because abducted themselves, and the ones who are observing. The fear we have when greys are here beside us is awful, I guess no one can imagine it if not confronted with that. 

I understand, this is your protocol. I am not a doctor so I am not qualified for that, it's ok 🙂

April 26, 2018
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So everyone is free to think what he wants to think but obviouly, I am useless here and I retire.

This, above, is what you wrote. To me, this translates pretty much to your ideas aren't welcome here, and retiring means you were leaving.  I guess I misread that, but that's kind of what it says.

That said, I responded to the best of my knowledge having been in this field for more than 20 years, and meeting quite a few of the top abduction researchers like the late Dr. John Mack, Budd Hopkins, etc.  

My answer was based on what I took away after talking to these researchers one on one... if the person was looking for a different answer, then I stand by the fact their mind was already made up, and they were just seeking validation for the one thing they already decided on. And that's a shame.

Anyhow, good luck to you. Hope to see you around the site. 

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April 26, 2018
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Yes I did write " I am useless here and I retire", this is my feeling, my thoughts, I just talked about what I feel and I never said it was someone on the site who told me I was useless and I should retire...never, just because this is not true. I just think that by myself, it is just my own conclusion. This is my philosophy : if what I have to say is not good and useless, I shut up. This is near to what Socrate said to his disciples 🙂  good lesson.

It is obvious you know this subject much more than me. 

It seems to me I have read somewhere that B.Hobkins and J.Mack were both of them not so sure these ETs are so bad, and they suggested it was some part of our evolution, something unknown and frightening but not so bad? Maybe I am wrong...If this is really their way of thinking and their conclusion, I am nothing and nobody but I don't agree with that, I 'd love this would be true, but I am sure it is not because of what I can see in other dimensions myself. Of course their works are so important and tell us a lot, but I do think we have to think "new" as scientists do for researching. The past is something we come from, but the future is to build, and our world has got a so old way of thinking...this time is phehistoric time for me compares to what I can see in parallel worlds.

Thank you and good luck to you too.

April 28, 2018
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I am very new to this site and came across ur story I so wish you well and all the prayers I can offer btw ty all for letting me join this site I have been on it for a little minute and already like it

April 30, 2018
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I'd like to say my approval to Humaine's knowledge, she's so helpful and human!and she knows so much about the invisible because she has been experiencing parallels planes for so many years.

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