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Time for Our Young People to Wake Up: The Entire Earth is in DANGER!
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August 26, 2015 - 12:16 am
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Hello:

I will assume that people all over the world, realizes that the state of California is in the midst of a 4 year drought.  What I did not realize imyself until recently, is that this drought is manufactured. According to Dane Wigington a former Bechtel employee (I recommend strongly seeing his Youtube videos). According to Mr. Wigington the use of chemtrails has been dispersed in the atmosphere over California to create a permanent "high" off the coast of California to re-route storm patterns away from California. The use of these chemical dispersents  has created a "synergistic toxicity" whereby once they fall to the ground the soil becomes toxic. The primary chemical that is used is aluminum. He has found a 20 to 30% increase of aluminum in the soil.

With this increase in aluminum there has been an uptick in alzhiemers, trees are dying. In some areas there is an increase in UV radiation which is rendering some areas devoid of insect life. From my understanding whenever the dispersents have been released in the sky, HARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) uses high intensity microwaves to heat the atmosphere where these dispersants are. What is real strange is nobody is sure why this is being done. As a result the weather is being affected globally! According to Dane Wigington even if this program stops, the normal pattern of global weather will unlikely never return.

What I find sad is during Dane Wigington's seminars there are very few young people in attendance. Young people who attend universities must realize that the universities of today are the disseminators of the "status quo" along with the mainstream media.  If a subject matter is not in a text book professors reject it. It use to be a time when "universities" welcomed all ideas even if they seemed unconventional. Ever since the universities have garnered corporate funds the acceptance of unconventional ideas has gone by the wayside. 

Our food sources are contaminated. The pharmaceutical industries are  killing people through the use of "systemic toxemia". The military industrial complex is now destroying the entire planet through "synergistic toxicity".

We, the 1960's hippie radicals are now old and we cannot fight and draw national attention to these egregious crimes by ourselves anymore. We need to enlist the help of the young people. The information is out their but you must have to dig for it. 

Thank you & good luck!

 

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August 26, 2015 - 12:48 am
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Weather patterns have changed all over the world, not just centered in California. Yes we are in a very bad drought, but that is nothing new for California, we are always in and out of droughts.  Some of the weather changes are due to man made problems, polution, and much of it is a natural change in average temperatures, that occur for periods of 20-100 years.  That is how the Serria Nevada mountians were formed along with plate techtonics.  

 

Chem trails is a big theory, that may all just be imaginary.  No doubt the world is in trouble, and more of it is simply something,  when I was a kid they predicted.  Over population! We are now near 7 billion people, and they all cook, heat, move form one place to another in cars and fueled vehicles.  We polute with power plants, industry, Nuclear power plant failures. We are killing the waterways, forests, food chain, and in a period of time when more animals are going extinct. We are fishing out oceans at alarming rates, killing species off faster than they can reproduce.  Since the industrial revolution in the 1800's we have been dying a slow death of polution and over population in a race with each other.  It is not a chem trail or in is not the Military industrial complex ( a real buzzword term), the boogy man or any plot, it is just man and his own stupidy.  It is man moving too fast, and too reckless, and simply not caring for the earth God gave us.  

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August 26, 2015 - 1:07 am
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Hello:

I strongly recommend you go to youtube to view Dane Wigington's presentation. This guy know's his stuff! Also check out Geoengineeringwatch.org.

You sound like a reasonable person. I feel once you see these videos you may modify your position a little bit.

Best Wishes

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sorry, do  not know why link is so big. 

 

If everyone believed every presentation we ever saw, we would all be selling AMWAY.  Point is I looked up his video, watched all 24 minutes of it wondering why I was wasting my time. A lot of guessing, reading between the lines, and no real proof whatsoever, including changing chemtrails to word geoengineering, because chemtrails has been debunked. He started to loose me when he made reference to building 7 at the WTC, a subject debated into the ground, but those who will never believe otherwise, will also never be convinced chemtrails are not some conspiracy, and a deep dark secret.  

If you are a resonable person as well ask yourself why all these wild theories, like the moon landing hoax, why not a single person has come forward and said, "I was part of this conspiracy", a death bed confession, or some shread of proof?  Someone was an airman on the ground who fueled all this cemtrail chemicals on the ground, at such and such airbase, or a pilot and crew who carried out these missions.  We all know agent orange was real, so the idea of widespread chemtrails, would not be very well hidden.  Where is anyone who has come forward who actually did these things?

Sorry I do not buy into all the chemtrails, moon hoaxes, thermite in the WTC, and have debated these things for years.  Nobody has ever shown any credible "How they did it", "Who did it", or "I was part of this operation".  

You can not proove things that never existed and if decades later the deep dark theory, still does not have a single clue, its either the best kept secret, or completly false to begin with.  

That said, the world does have a lot of pollution, and its been proven the ozone layers were damaged greatly just from aerpsol products from paints to hairsprays and deoderants. I grew up along the great lakes in Buffalo, and what the steel mills did to Lake Erie polluted it for centuries.  We have so much pollutants in the air, its full of things that make our SMOG.  Car emmisions, chemicals like freon leaks, California fuels, decades of lead fuels, you name it.  He talks about Aluminum particals, who would be surprised, aluminum ore is the most abundant ore in the world, dirt and dust probably have a natural level to begin with, but aluminum is tied to many many industrial pollutants, and deseases.  

The above link is simple explaination debunking chemtrails, I am sure you can find a lot of information on it. 

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August 28, 2015 - 4:19 am
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Greeney2:

I have always found it amazing how 2 people can look at the same thing and come away with a different opinion. The late George Carlin once said that whenever you get a gathering of people who have similar beliefs there is always the potential for a "conspiracy."

It has been my experience that no amount of evidence will change a persons mind if they refuse to listen. 

Take Care

P.S You have your reality and I have mine.

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I guess that means exactly what I said, that those who want to believe something, will never be convinced otherwise.  This is why before I start selling out my country and government, a very common fashionable thing now, I boil things down to basic questions.  

God knows the WTC conspiracy has been beaten to death, debated into the ground, as the moon landing hoaxes. "I know it happened" people say, just look at this picture.  I remember all the ridiculeous theories that grew out of thinking they see something in a picture, which my the way photoshopping everything from A to Z, I defy you to produce true origional photos of anything.  We have seen it all in photoshopping.  One argument over a puff of smoke emited from the WTC sparked "Preplanted explosives", but in fact was only the rush of air, floor by floor being pushed outward, as each floor pancaked.  To this day, people believe termite theories. Theories about the moon landings never end today.  

The reality of these chemtrails is where is anyone, anywhere, who actually is part of these secret missions, loading chemicals, flying these planes, death bed confessions form a single soul in any of these conspiracies.  Photos used to show chemical tanks inside aircraft were in fact water tanks for testing center of gravity.  

Reality is if you want to be led down a path of a presentation, that is carfully engineered, you might be easily convinced.  I used my AMWAY comment to prove the point presentations can led you down a path, where it sounds so good, you would be crazy not to do it, or believe it.  AMWAY was convincing, millions tried it, and millions went noplace with it.  Point is they were led down a path to believe it, but the reality was if worked for the very few on the top. The reality with chemtrails is they have been explained, but those who believe it like you do, are not convinced otherwise.  You talk about reality, I say some people require little to no burden of proof, I require a big or convincing burden of proof.  Since JFK, we have become obsessed with conspiracy theories, most of which are unproven and imaginary. 

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2 last points. The premise about the WTC collapse, most people thought the heat of the jet fuel could not melt the steel, and that steel has to melt to fail.  I studied the iron carbon relationship in steel in metalurgy classes, and steel  hardness, heatreatment is affected from 700 degrees, not the melting point of 2800. At 1300 degrees steel completly goes through a grain sturcture change, and completely anneals, long before it is even red hot. So the concept of the steel having to melt for the building to fall was false, and the conspiracy theorists could not grasp the metalurical explanations.  Temps under 1000 the beams could not support the weight above. 

The moon hoax people still believe it today we never landed on the moon, but we have taken pictures not long ago, showing the landing places, the rover tracks still visible, and the ground showing what was left on the moon.  They still will not believe it.  

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greeney2 said
2 last points. The premise about the WTC collapse, most people thought the heat of the jet fuel could not melt the steel, and that steel has to melt to fail.  I studied the iron carbon relationship in steel in metalurgy classes, and steel  hardness, heatreatment is affected from 700 degrees, not the melting point of 2800. At 1300 degrees steel completly goes through a grain sturcture change, and completely anneals, long before it is even red hot. So the concept of the steel having to melt for the building to fall was false, and the conspiracy theorists could not grasp the metalurical explanations.  Temps under 1000 the beams could not support the weight above. 

The moon hoax people still believe it today we never landed on the moon, but we have taken pictures not long ago, showing the landing places, the rover tracks still visible, and the ground showing what was left on the moon.  They still will not believe it.  

May I ask what attracts you to this website (The Black Vault)? With regards to the WTC. Can you explain what made building 7 (47 story) collapse in its own footprint in 6.5 seconds?

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chemtrails are reality based on evidence from geoengineering classes offered at Oxford University.

http://www.geoengineering.ox.a.....gineering/

Isaiah 24:4
The earth mourns and dries up,
and the land wastes away and withers.
Even the greatest people on earth waste away.

http://time.com/timelapse2016/.....w_facebook

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