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Unseasonably Warm [Understatement]
January 31, 2012
7:34 pm
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I've been meaning to open a thread about this one, which Greeney and I have touched on a couple times in other topics.

I live in Buffalo, NY which (most popularly) is the snow capital of the U.S. Even though the media exaggerates this a bit, we certainly do get our fair share of snow. To live in Buffalo this time of year means you are rugged individual who has a high tolerance for low temperatures. I love the cold and I love the snow and this time of year for me is almost a reboot. I hunker down and night and listen to the slow howling wind. I look outside at the frostbitten ground, the 200 lb icicles dangling from 3 story houses and/or piles of snow built up over the past 2 months of snowfall. This may sound like a bit much, but it is sort of a spiritual experience for me. There is just something about retreating to a warm house with loved ones and witnessing the force of nature outside and taking comfort in the ability to overcome it.

However; this year has been a very unusual one. We didn't even receive our first real snowfall until mid January (which in itself is extremely unusual). I don't remember the temperature even falling below freezing the whole month of December. We didnt get our first real snowfall until Jan 13th, which lasted until the 15th and then quickly melted away. For the most part, the temperature has hung around 40-45 degrees. If you are from Buffalo, you would think I'm lying, but it's the complete truth.

And today... today is what finally made finally open this topic. It is 55 degrees out! I am walking around with no more than a light jacket. This is just weird, I am so used to it being 10, 15... maybe 20 degrees out this time of year. Something is seriously going on, I never... ever remember the weather being so out of whack.

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January 31, 2012
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Capricorn lives very close to where I grew up, probably within walking distance to my neighborhood in Kenmore. He is not exagerating at all about what Buffalo is like this time of year. Been a very long time since my time in Buffalo, but lived there until I was 13. When the snow came you had it all winter, and the yards and streets were snowfilled until spring. Mom used to always look for the crockus coming up which always happened when there was still icy remains in the flowerbeds. She knew spring was here. You had to have a high threshold for cold in Buffalo. We also never were driven to school, like my kids were everyday in sunny California. We walked no matter what the weather was, and schools had something Califonia schools do not know about, called the clokroom. You had to hang you winter overcloths and boots in the clokroom becasue you had to bundle up for the walk to school I would comb my hair using a little water, and any hair sticking out from my hat would be frozen stiff. The little joke you all see about not touching a door handle with bare hands, becasue it will freeze to it was something you all knew about. This time of year, we had big snowforts built in the yards, I have pictures of snow tunnels in my yard, and we had the coolest snowball wars and forts imaginable. Other kids flattened down the snow, watered it, and made complete back yard ice skating and hockey rinks. That was normal and many times snow hit hard by Thanksgiving. Something I remember was how the ground freezes when the cold weather comes. Playing football you understand where it can be painful, as falling on frozen ground doesn't feel too great. Makes you understand why they intented astroturf and articial playing fields.

Back to the warming, I am sure the water temp of the great lakes is also affected, and hot winters will probably have a severe impact on Lake Erie this summer. I remember when Dad use to rent a cottage in Silver Bay Canada, in summer the seaweed(actually some algee condition) on the lake collected on the shoreline, was very deep went out 100 feet of more. It was actually a real problem as I recall. I'm sure that algee level and seaweed is going to be impacted, fish and oxygen content of the lake, etc. etc. I wrote the other day about Lake Erie, and the Bethlehem steel mills (on the 1950's post in questions that make you think), as to the condition of the Lake from polution. This warming condition will probably have a monumental impact on the great lakes. People in the 50's use to fish the Niagara river for Muskies, but not even sure it that is still something they do today.

January 31, 2012
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It's not out of whack, unusual yes, very very much so..........and thanks for the topic>>> Unseasonably warm...

Well I remember this kind of weather in the past, but as you say, nothing that has been so consistently warm and snow free..It's ridiculously warm here today in Indiana and as for snow, 4 get about it..............none the entire year, none that would amount to anything more than a few flurries... Last year was almost the complete opposite...not so much snow, but some really cold days, weeks even..

All of the cold air is locked up way up north, and there's little sign of it ever coming south, maybe not ever this season. Yet in Alaska it's unbelievably cold,as it is in portions of Europe............This tread will eventually catch the USA in it's grip...maybe not this year...........but soon and I feel that it will only get worse in the coming years..

I suspect a return to a mini Ice age in ( by geological measures ) a very short period of time..........Some have said that it's already begun.

Anyway.........I've never let the cold keep me inside if I wanted to venture out for a walk, or short hike to the store or take the kids sledding. ETC.........But a constant zero to 20 below zero................hum that might be a coming game changer.

I see where some have lost their lives over in Europe due to the cold weather...........that's something I'll never ever understand..Maybe they staggered away from the Pub and passed out in a filed or something....we had that sort of thing happen twice near here last season...No way this season....Hell it's 60 degrees out as I type...........Unseasonable indeed. 😕

Jet stream is locked in a zonal flow, has been for months now...........Hope it doesn't kink in early April and kill all the early fruit crops and the like........very possible.

Time to embrace this change and be very wary of the coming Spring storm season, someone is sure to get hammered into oblivion...

Maybe the summer will be just as unseasonable---------one can hope anyway.

Cole

January 31, 2012
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"greeney2" wrote: People in the 50's use to fish the Niagara river for Muskies, but not even sure it that is still something they do today.

They still are out every winter. In fact, my buddies and I had plans to ice fish this past Saturday. We had it planned since the summer. Forget about that, the lake isn't frozen over at all.. I mean, not even a real sign of freezing. The Labatt Blue Pond Hockey tournament comes here every February. It was slated to be the biggest tournament yet... they cancelled it a month ago. The requirement is 8 inches of ice. Ha! we'd be lucky to get 1 inch at this rate.

"Cole_Trickle" wrote: It's not out of whack, unusual yes, very very much so

The reason I say out of whack is because of how drastic the change in weather has been when it does decide to drop down. We've probably had 5 times this winter where the temp actually dropped below 32. However, when it dropped... boy did it drop. 3 of the 5 times we were greeted with 65 mph winds. I'm pretty used to my house shaking a bit but, I'm talking some serious wobbling. The first time you are ok with it, but the 2nd and 3rd time you start to wonder. Then, the temp doesn't just drop below freezing, after the wind subsides.. im talking instant drop to 0 or minus 5 degrees. Which, we are used to here but, the rate of drop was concerning... Then the next day, right back up to 40-45. Strange...

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February 2, 2012
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So Lake Erie (one of the great lakes that Buffalo sits on the tip of) today set the record for the warmest it has even been. Also, much of the U.S. is setting records for the warmest winter in 40 years:
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/16655420/ ... -of-the-us

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February 4, 2012
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global climate change..an ongoing process..
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/ ... 1911.shtml

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
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February 4, 2012
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It's been Spring here for weeks already. The insects are spawning, reptiles, amphibians and rodents are busy as ever. Weeds are sprouting and I watched the grass, dared it to start growing. Laugh The trees, flowering plants, our rose and magnolia bushes are telling me it's Spring. I don't care what the Ground Hog Day announcement was, it's here. I was looking forward to more cold weather but that is something we really only experienced for about a week. Unlike last year when it briefly snowed here a few times.

February 13, 2012
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Enjoy it while you can because there is little doubt that the earth is in the process of undergoing a major, very rapid change. Too early to tell how severe it's going to be, but be it most certainly will.

Europeans are knee deep in snow and cold, have been for two straight months. Just the early signs of things to come.......

All over the globe global warming scientists are jumping off of the band wagon like rats leaving a sinking ship. Some have said some very corny things about why the sudden change of heart.

Glaciers, as well as sea ice, are not melting nearly as fast as some have said they were. The Asia chains of Mountains have lost nearly zero glacial ice this past decade..............One has to wonder what has gone wrong with their slide rules...or maybe they've finally sobered up, who knows for sure.

Cole

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