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Swine flu vaccine trials now underway
July 22, 2009
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July 22, 2009
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Let the fun begin.

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

July 23, 2009
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"Tairaa" wrote: Let the fun begin.

Excellent!

July 23, 2009
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The race to develop a H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine before the fall flu season ramped up Wednesday, after Australia launched the first human trials of the H1N1 vaccine and scientists from the U.S., China and Britain announced plans for human trials of the H1N1 vaccine in coming weeks.

US labs 'working day and night' on flu vaccine

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Producing a swine flu vaccine is proving harder than many people thought.

In the United States, five of the world's leading flu vaccine-makers have been asked for a progress report on how they are getting along with its production.

The chief ingredient for the vaccine is grown in chicken eggs and companies are only getting about one third of the doses per egg than they usually get with the regular flu.

It means H1N1 vaccine-makers may end up with fewer doses than expected.

William Schaffner, professor of medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, says American scientists are working hard to prepare for the northern hemisphere's flu season.

"The lights in the laboratories are on at night. People are working day and night on this. Some of these things just take time," he said.

"Remember [we] don't want to cut a corner. We want to do it right so that when we deliver this vaccine to the American public we can say it meets our standards."

US health officials hope to have 160 million doses of the swine flu vaccine available sometime in October.

Dr Anne Schuchat from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention says they are trying to learn from the swine flu experience in the southern hemisphere, including Australia.

"Whether it's here in the United States or in places like Argentina or Australia, there is a way that we handle any types of medical challenges," she said.

"The issues that are being seen are making sure people have good information, accurate information that is not misinformation, and making sure they know when they seek care, when they need to go to a doctor's office or even an emergency room."

In the US, it will be up to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to decide whether the swine flu vaccine is safe.

"If all goes well we expect to have substantive data within a couple of months of when the studies start," says Jesse Goodman, the FDA's chief scientist.

"But there are a lot of uncertainties in productive studies getting the results."

In 1976, a mass vaccination against a different swine flu was marred by reports of a paralysing side effect.

Meanwhile the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention says this new swine flu is not yet mutating to become more dangerous.

"But it is not at this point presenting itself as a something to be, that looks like 1918, which is very good news," US Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

More than one million people in the United States have had swine flu and 263 have died.


At the same time the United States struggles to produce a swine flu vaccine, An Australian vaccine for swine flu has already started trials.

July 24, 2009
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yeah yeah,working day and night for simple PROFITS...

theres a deadline to meet,thats before too many PEOPLE DIE..

July 24, 2009
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"chiselray" wrote: yeah yeah,working day and night for simple PROFITS...

theres a deadline to meet,thats before too many PEOPLE DIE..

i believe big pharma released the virus to use up the tamiflu stocks after bird flu failed.

tamiflu is making vast profits.

swine flu will generate an average $3 billion per country for big pharma and millions of people will get sick from the side effects but mass media will never report that.

July 24, 2009
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frankly not that many people died in mexico city considering the conditions and crowding in that city ... i don't know why this is being made into a big deal except for the fact of scaring people into handing money over to the big pharma companies (as mentioned previously) --

flu shots for that matter are next to worthless in my opinion ... i used to get flu shots ten years ago or so and when i would get the flu anyway, the doctor would say "oh well that shot wasn't for that type of flu" ... well who cares them if you get sick for a week anyway? wtf is the point? except that they are $60 a pop or so and when millions of people are scared into getting them, then once mroe, big profits ... frankly i've gotten the flu once in the past ten years or so and i take echinacea, garlic, and cranberry during flu season instead of a flu shot ... i get the flu less using those three things than i did getting the flu shot ... and it's cheaper ...

take care :)
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July 24, 2009
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If you want to remain viable then don't get any vaccines, and especially ones for alleged flu.

A Trojan Horse methinks. A binary weapon most probably.

And the reason it will be considered sufficiently tested is because they arbitrarily halved the time 'vaccines' need to be tested in order for them to be considered to be safe for release.

It's all so funny. I would bet the farm most of you are already rolling up your sleeves in frantic anticipation! Well the world is better off without you so I hope you invalidate yourselves without inconveniencing me and those like me who want to stop the overt murder and maiming of the human race.

Say NO to drugs! Say no to those lethal cocktails made from things you don't want to know about that the World Government wants you to suck into your veins. The NWO wants a sick and compliant citizenry.

July 24, 2009
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all that aside ....... it has impacted many people around the world.

The w.h.o now sez around 2 Billion people could get swine flu ........

Thu even more than that could be impacted, e.g ...... pregnant woman & their baby's.

July 24, 2009
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Does anybody happen to have the stats on how many people have died from this flu as compared to others? From an article I looked at for Michigan state, with simple math, it was about .03% had died from this "swine" flu.

So, why this push for tamiflu when it's ineffective? Simple, follow the money. Tamiflu is from Roche pharmaceuticals, AKA Hoffman La-Roche Inc. A corporation called Gilead Sciences "discovered" tamiflu.

http://sourcewatch.org/index.p.....d_Sciences

In March 1999 Gilead acquired NeXstar Pharmaceuticals of Boulder, Colorado following two years of negotiations with the company. At the time, NeXstar's annual sales of $130 million was three times Gilead's sales. NeXstar's two revenue-generating drugs were AmBisome, an injectable fungal treatment, and DaunoXome, an oncology drug taken by HIV patients. Also in 1999, Roche announced first approval of Tamiflu (oseltamivir) for the treatment of influenza. Tamiflu was originally discovered by Gilead and licensed to Roche for late-phase development and marketing.

So, now we know the corporate names, which political names are involved with tamiflu?

Well, Donald Rumsfeld for one: http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/ne ... d/?cnn=yes

Remember ol' Rummy? That liar? That murderer? That same spawn of satan that brought us aspertame? Yeh, he's making money off this too.

Another name you may remember, from the Iran Contra days, if you're old enough. Ever notice that most people involved with the Iran Contra scandal didn't go to prison? They just moved positions in the government. It reminds me of what the Catholic church and Ireland did with the pedophiles. Oh yeah, this criminal's name is George Schultz...surely somebody remembers him and his criminal acts? He is a board member of Gilead Sciences, I'm sure he is well invested in tamiflu too.

http://sourcewatch.org/index.p.....d_Sciences

Tamiflu = kool -ade! Don't take the poison!

Instead, build your own natural immunity. Eat lot's of vegetables, preferably raw. Eat organic. Eat grass fed beef, free range chicken, etc. If you can get your food directly from a farm, do it. Do not eat any processed foods, that means no going out to any restaurant. That's hard to do, but keep it in mind. Stay away from anything genetically modified, that means no corn, soy, canola (rape seed), oils or otherwise, unless they're organic. That means nothing processed from a normal grocery store. Oh, and it's summer, get out side every day for 15 minutes or so to soak up some vitamin D. 😀

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