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Senate Voting On Indefinite Detention -
December 1, 2011
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 19473.html

Friend of mine posted this recently, and figured it would be interesting to some folks here. Thoughts on this? No on should be held, "...indefinitely without trial...", in my opinion.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

December 2, 2011
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/0 ... 23929.html

"The Senate on Thursday blocked a second attempt to spare U.S. citizens from potential indefinite military detentions and was set to vote on a third effort to do the same later in the day."

This is silly. It makes it possible for US authorities to detain anyone, even U.S. citizens, "suspected" of terrorist activities. It also protects the government from liability due to its suspension of Habeas Corpus.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

December 2, 2011
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Here's a .pdf of the bill in its entirety. Notice SEC. 1031.

"4. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED
FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN
COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AU7
THORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE."

Edit - Well, I need to read better.

"17 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under
19 this section does not extend to citizens of the United
20 States."

So it doesn't extend to US citizens?

Edit 2 - Whoops! Forgot the .pdf link!

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s ... 867pcs.pdf

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

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