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December 11, 2009
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Oh what it would have been like to see this in person. Scary I bet. Animals of this kind were never met for cages, Yes I feel bad for the trainer and do hope he survives. However exploitation of animals is just wrong on many fronts. Think of the Woman ruined for life by the chimp that was kept as a pet. Who in their right freaking mind keeps a shit tossing animal as a pet?

My wife was hell bent on taking the Kids to the circus, I hated it, it was pathetic, not to mention boring as hell. Too bad the over aged Lion didn't act up a bit during his performance, just to make things interesting.

Animal tamer fighting for life after being mauled by three tigers in 'playful' attack as horrified audience looks on

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0ZOHKn3Rd

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An animal tamer is in a critical condition after being mauled by three tigers during a bizarre supper circus club show in Germany.

Christian Walliser, 28, was attacked by the big cats as 170 horrified diners at at Pagel’s Dinner Circus looked on.

Three of the five tigers mauled the trainer when he lost his footing.

Within seconds the animals had shredded Mr Walliser's left hand and inflicted serious injuries to his head and upper body.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0ZOHeMqT4

The Culprits.

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But hey: THE SHOW MUST GO ON Why is it that all of these trainers are German?

Circus employees rushed to restrain the tigers using fire extinguishers and Mr Walliser was dragged to safety.

He was airlifted to hospital where he is now fighting for his life.

About 20 spectators were treated for shock at the Hagenbeck Zoo in Hamburg.

'He didn't stand a chance,' said one of the guests. 'They were on him in an instant.'

Circus chief Stefan Pagels insisted the tigers attacked Mr Walliser in a 'playful' manner and said they would not be destroyed.

He added: 'First of all, the tigers did nothing wrong. Secondly, we never punish our animals, we only ever reward them.

'Punishing them would serve no purpose and there is no reason to put them to sleep.

'What you sometimes hear about animals getting a taste for human blood is complete and utter rubbish. As soon as Mr Walliser is back, and we hope that will be soon, he will look after the animals again.

'There is a one-in-a-million chance that something will go wrong and it happened. We have a saying in the circus business that says "The show must go on." We are sure that Mr. Walliser wants us to go on.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0ZOI2tLWX

And before anyone takes the stance that I'm somehow pissing on the Trainer for voicing my opinion as KUDOS for the Tigers, they are animals don;t ya know!

Here is the very first comment left by a reader on the link: I'm tame~ no pun intended Laugh Laugh

Three cheers for the Tigers! I hope the moron who feels it's his place to humiliate these endangered animals dies. Of course, the stupid humans will destroy the animals just for being 'animals'. Sad as it will be, dead is better than living a life in confinement and being treated as a 'one trick pony'.

- radtec, Chicago, USA, 11/12/2009 14:03

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... -club.html

Bring Em Home Cole

December 11, 2009
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It should be Illigal to keep wild & endangerd animals as pets in the USA like it is is 90% of the world already.

Circuses & zoos should be banned aswell.

December 11, 2009
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Didn't Austrailia start out as a human zoo for criminals from the UK? Maybe they are a good idea? Laugh

December 11, 2009
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Rath, most of the zoos in the US that are worth calling such are well-maintained approximations of the resident animals' natural habitat, and many are involved in recovery projects which help to restore endangered populations worldwide. The Los Angeles Zoo and the San Diego Zoo & Wild Animal Park are excellent examples of such activities.

However, in spite of all the whining I heard from 1983 to 1994 concerning their 'endangered' status, I didn't see any exhibits of "White California Taxpayers". 😛 Laugh

December 12, 2009
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LA Zoo is a nice zoo, but San Diego Zoo is far better IMHO. In recent years the LA Zoo has had some controversay over the size of the Elephant exhibit, being cruel. Many want them to be in habitates that would be minimum many square miles. I'm also not too sure how the recent California Budget problems have impacted the local Zoo like LA Zoo. It has to be affected but hopefully not to levels affecting the animals.

Rath, a few years ago wern't you defending Steve Erwin? If anything, as great of a showman and likable as he is, he got killed harrassing wildlife. He does not need to be so close to them they are threatened and react as the stingray did. His face to face encounters with the worlds deadlyist snake was entertaining, but stupid. I'm sure he did wonderful things for the Austrailian Zoo, but his TV stunts IMHO as entertaining as they were, were totally unnessesary, were only to sell TV.

December 12, 2009
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Irwin was killed by a freak accident, not from harassing a creature. Sting Ray got him as I recall.
No, stupid is what I did out of frustration one day. I was trying to get the horses in the barn as a storm was coming. I used a feed bucket and axe handle in an attempt to coax them from the pasture into the barn. I banged the bucket with the handle, this would usually bring them running, horses love to eat. Laugh Only this day they refused and since I was in a hurry I got pissed and let out after them with fire in my eyes.

I banged the bucket and called their names to no avail, fruitless. Fruitless until I got about halfway to them some 150 or so yards from the safety of the corral gate/fence that led to the barn. All of a sudden I saw a wall of Horse coming at me in full gallop, 4 abreast 1,000 lbs a piece. Stupid ah yes 4 sure but since I had lots of experience with Horses I knew EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. Stand still and don't move they will not run you over, kind of like how they won't step on your foot when you're in a stall with them either.

Was I scared--F,ING A I was but I knew if I moved I was likely severely injured or worse. 😮 They parted and went by me at 25 plus miles per hour and straight into the corral where my wife and Mom-in Law stood in stone cold silence. I yelled out " SHUT THE F-ING GATE "

I got back up to the barn and my wife says:" You're crazy ass lucky " Laugh and I said Yeah that was pretty stupid! Laugh

Bring Em Home Cole

December 13, 2009
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We had horses for a long time, and the one thing I remembr learning is that a horse is a fleet footed animal, like a deer a horse's natural reaction is to run from trouble or fear. You did get lucky, real lucky actually, becasue when they bolt suddenly they arn't thinking too much about what gets in their path. As you know even a paper bag blowing in front of them can make them go skitzo and bananas. Don't feel bad, when we first got horses, my wife grew up jumping horses, she was in the yard on it, and I was on the ground. Not understanding a slap on the ass(to the horse not the Mrs Laugh ) tells the horse "go fast", I thought I was Mr. Cool horse expert and slapped the horse on the ass, as she started to ride away. Lucky for me she knew what to do, as the horse took off and she wasn;t expecting it. She got him right in control, and I learned "opps", I'll never do that again. Laugh Boy was I in trouble that day! Laugh

As far as Steve Erwin, yes it was an accident, but it would have never happened if he didn't get that close into the space of the stingray. I call that harrassing wildlife becasue it does put them in a mode of threat. They tell whale watching boats, that a certain distance should be maintained otherwise it is considered harrassment of the whale to get so close. If you are able to touch it, and that signals distress that is harrassment. Picking up a snake or getting 2 feet from something that can kill you is harrassment or that animal IMHO.

December 13, 2009
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"greeney2" wrote: Didn't Austrailia start out as a human zoo for criminals from the UK? Maybe they are a good idea? Laugh

thats true......

But i bet you didnt know Australia only became a prison colony for the UK after the USA stooped taking the British prisoner itself.

Australia was used as a British prison colony for some 80 years while the USA was used for near 200 years.

December 13, 2009
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"vulcan6gun" wrote: Rath, most of the zoos in the US that are worth calling such are well-maintained approximations of the resident animals' natural habitat, and many are involved in recovery projects which help to restore endangered populations worldwide. The Los Angeles Zoo and the San Diego Zoo & Wild Animal Park are excellent examples of such activities.

However, in spite of all the whining I heard from 1983 to 1994 concerning their 'endangered' status, I didn't see any exhibits of "White California Taxpayers". 😛 Laugh

So .......... 🙄

well-maintained.

its got nothing to do with quality & conditions.

It's got to do with thew fact that we lock these endangered animals up in zoos & think we are helping then grow their numbers & give them a better life.

the fact is we only ever put the most endangered animals in zoos.

Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

Then one day somebody forgets to turn out a light at the zoo & the whole building burns down, killing 1/5th of the remaining population of any given animal. 2/5ths if they where apart of the last breading pair for that animal.

In fact any natural disaster can wipe out all the animals at any particular zoo.

Look at the tsunami in south east Asia.

look at the war in Iraq.

In Iraq the first things looted & taken where the animals at the zoo, & the artifacts at the museum second.

The live animal trade is worth more the museum antiques.

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