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Oscar Pistorius shoots and kills girlfriend
February 16, 2013
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Remember how the world rooted for Oscar Pistorius running his dream in the Olympics and how all the athletes embraced his spirit. What a contrast from this story.

New details of tragedy emerge in Pistorius case, per South African newspaper
By Jay Busbee | Fourth-Place Medal – 1 hour 39 minutes ago
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Oscar Pistorius leaves the Boschkop Police Station in Pretoria, South Africa on Thursday. (Getty Images)
A new report out of South Africa indicates that Oscar Pistorius carried Reeva Steenkamp downstairs from the bathroom where he had allegedly shot her, and attempted to perform mouth-to-mouth resuscitation while attempting to save her life. The report comes via Beeld, an Afrikaaans-language newspaper in South Africa.
The newspaper reported that Steenkamp was still breathing when local security guards and neighbors arrived at Pistorius' house, but died shortly afterward. She had been shot four times through the bathroom door. While the first reports indicated that Pistorius had believed he was firing at an intruder, more recent police reports have backed off that allegation.
According to the Beeld report, there were blood spatters in Pistorius' house tracing the route Pistorius carried Steenkamp, and bloody towels near where she passed. Forensic teams continue to work in the Pistorius home in the exclusive Silver Woods Country Estate community, and have removed the bullet-riddled bathroom door as possible evidence. The paper cites a source near the police which indicates that Steenkamp was sitting on the sink when shot.
Pistorius was charged with premeditated murder in Pretoria magistrates' court, and faces a potential life sentence of at least 25 years if convicted. Pistorius' family continues to stress that they believe this was a tragic accident, and that they want the judicial process to play out properly.
"The alleged murder is disputed in the strongest terms," Pistorius' family said in a statement. "Oscar Pistorius has made history as an Olympic and Paralympic sportsman and has been an inspiration to others the world over. He has made it very clear that he would like to send his deepest sympathies to the family of Reeva. He would also like to express his thanks through us today for all the messages of support he has received, but as stated our thoughts and prayers today should be for Reeva and her family, regardless of the circumstances of this terrible, terrible tragedy."
Pistorius remains in a cell in Pretoria. A court will determine on Tuesday whether to grant him bail until the trial. Also on that day, a memorial service will be held for Steenkamp in her hometown.

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February 18, 2013
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http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/1616 ... rius-home/

Evidence is mounting and it does not look good for the athlete. A bloody cricket bat was found, and a theory of what may have happened, in addition to a domestic violence report the night before. Reports are that her skull was crushed, which would not be the case if it were purely an accidental shooting. Poor girl really suffered a horrible death from the sound of it. Sadly more attention is given to him then to her and her family.

February 18, 2013
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... roids.html

More damning news for Oscar Pistorius, as this article gives a description of the events, and now have found Steroids in the house, and a theory it was possible rage from them.

February 19, 2013
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😐

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

February 21, 2013
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Doesn't seem like many people are following this story, but I thought something very interesting is coming out with this case. The big difference between the USA Justice system and the system in South Africa. The eliminated jury trials in 1969, and this will be a trial by a single Judge, who may use experts assumed to be forensic and others. In the USA, you have the right to remain silent, and in a case like this, you would be saying nothing. Already, in the hearing for Bail, they are discussing in great detail the events of what happened, including the lawyer condoning Pistorius admitting to doing the shooting, in a effort to convince the Judge it was not murder, while he fully admits to an accidental death. Many many detail questions that are not adding up. They have allowed him to give complete detailed accounts of the events of the night, where in the USA, Maranda Rights would have to be given, and a lawyer would tell you to say absolutely nothing.

I guess what I am seeing is the same Judge hearing this about Bail, will be the same Judge for his trial. What is happening now would never be herd by any Jury, however the Judge, who will be his Jury, is now so full of details, how can he be impartial when it get to the trial? They go to great lengths in our trials not to let Juries hear anything that can sway or prejudice them. In this case the Judge has to be completely swayed by pretrial evidence, and seems like he could never be impartial at all. Just about everyone believes he is guilty as sin, but even Pistorius deserves a trail by a Judge completely impartial, which seems almost impossible now.

Gives you a new appreciation for our Jury system, when you see another system at work.

February 21, 2013
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They have feudal law...Admiralty Maritime Law..the law of commerce.

Admiralty Maritime law ..the law of the sea enroaching onto land. Which is commercial Law...the law of the Sovereign...royalty.

Where one is not tried by a jury of ones peers..but by a feudal lord/Sovereign in a file folder. Often here one must prove ones innocence. The starting point is guilt and one must prove ones innocence.

This is not a understanding provided or "Educated " into most people by our "Public School ' Educational system.

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February 21, 2013
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Pretty accurate to what is happening now with him. He is trying to prove his innocence for bail, even to the point of admitting to the crime right from the start. When you see a trail taking place, that will not have a jury, it makes you appreciate our system, even with some of its flaws.

February 22, 2013
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics-- ... 28603.html

I'm stunned! He was granted Bail. More stunning is the fact people yelled "Yes" at the verdict for bail. It was said he would have been given waiting time in the most brutal of prisons, well known for the kinds of things that can happen. Also an issue came up I mentioned to Mrs. G2 about prosthetic limbs in prisons not being allowed. They had said his would not be allowed, and would be removed, making him be wheelchair bound. I was referring to USA prisons and them thinking the artifical limbs are weapons. Evidently they think along those lines too.

I am very surprised he will be out on bail.

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