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April 20, 2012
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Tree climbing. Great exercise but not for the faint of heart. I took to crawling before I could walk, learned about all I could on the ground before getting into the first 100 FT tall Oak. Now I'm taking baby steps. Laugh Laugh

Anyway I'll have to post a pic of the hard hat, and the saddle....I can now open cans with my bare hands, hehehe..

Yep.............after my third trip into the canopy I was approached by a neighbor who wanted to know If I'd remove some limbs from their electric. Laugh Laugh Laugh 😡

I can't post my reply in public...too vulgar.. Let's just say that the shit hit the fan after they responded to my simple retort of " ARE YOU SERIOUS "

Obviously they said " YES WE ARE SERIOUS "

My wife said that my face and neck looked like a lobster and she wondered if she show call 911. Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh I said know I just about bit my tongue clean in two, I'll be okay. 😕 🙄 🙄 🙄

There's always someone who'll want something for nothing if they can get away with it. If I told the idiots how much this gear set me back maybe they'd be shamed into oblivion...............LOL But I somehow strongly doubt that's even possible these days.

Cole

April 20, 2012
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Why?

April 20, 2012
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"greeney2" wrote: Why?

Why not? Climbing trees is fun.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

April 20, 2012
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I was think more like midlife crisis Laugh !

April 20, 2012
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"greeney2" wrote: I was think more like midlife crisis Laugh !

Laugh Laugh Laugh

Not really, like I said, tired of getting raped by tree service companies. So now I can learn to do it myself, it's what I meant by the crawling before I walk comment. Lot's to learn and lot's to know before rigging 500 lb limbs off a tree 70 feet in the air from a rope line. 😉

I must admit though, repelling from that height with a figure 8 is pretty damn fun. Especially when the Hillbillies think you're about to fall. Laugh Laugh Laugh

More people need help these days that ever before, it's a sad fact.

It's satisfying to no end and a great great form of exercise. I bought my girls a full harness, the oldest simply hands over hands like a Monkey. Pretty amazing her weight to strength ratio....I've not been able to do that for DECADES... Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

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April 20, 2012
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Whats the going price in your area to do trees? I have 2 chinese elms I have to get done. It isn't cheap out here, what about where you live?

April 21, 2012
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Here's a good example: I wanted two limbs removed from a large oak that were damaged in the ice storm 2 winters back. 2 limbs $ 550.00

The going rate to take down a large Oak involves the amount of work necessary ( I totally agree with that ) yet anywhere from $ 1,100-1,500 bucks is insane.

Granted I'm talking very large 800-1,100 lb limbs.....still a bucket truck provides very very easy access, rigging it by a climber is less expensive.....try explaining that one.. Laugh

I've a very large Ash tree with a massive limb hanging over the very busy road out front......bucket truck and leave everything for me to clean up....would take all of 15 minutes MAX to put down....$ 400-500 bucks....they say they need 2 extra workers to control traffic... 😮 😮 freaking laughable ......

Yes this work is dangerous but ONLY IF you've no knowledge of what is actually involved.......my background makes it impossible for these people to lie to me....I fried/fired the last guy I hired, he knows to NEVER come back....He bid the job and then the trees kicked his ass....he admitted he'd bit off more than he could handle....so I settled up with the guy and vowed right then and there ( NEVER AGAIN )

So I bought the proper gear and am in training Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

Nothing they can do that someone like me can't....already had a few cruisers stop and ask what I was doing and who I worked for.. No Joke.....people see us mowing our lawns with a push mower and they stop and say " Gee I've a mowing service and I can do that for ya for...$$$$ per month....I reply, this push mower is what I trim with fool....I've a 22 hp tractor....thanks for stopping.. 😡

I have a neighbor who hired a guy and the guy Killed two of his Oaks by improper pruning/dropping of limbs-----shaved the trunk and let bugs/ants attack the exposed trunk...dead within 24 months.

Oaks are very expensive trees....impossible to replace in under 25-30 years of growing time.

So far so good, not even a nick or scratch as of yet...knock on wood. Laugh Laugh

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April 21, 2012
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They want about $1000=1100 per tree to top them ( 45 feet tall), shape them, and haul off the junk. They are a soft wood. Branches have to be roped and lowered to the ground in some places. They usually have crews for the ground, my trees are a full one day job for them. Climbing is only one part of it. You need to know how and where to trim, however chinese elms, you can't kill if you tried. It use to be more like 200-350 per tree but that was many years ago.

When it comes to hiring people you and I are much alike. I do not trust any of them usually, and have particular ways I expect them to do the work. Its usually not their way. I find it very hard to just hire someone, close my eyes, and feel confident, everything is done just right. Sometimes it ends up the best money you spent, especially when its not your area of expertise. But I do know my limits, and trees are one of them. Even when I was younger, climbing trees like that was not my thing. I know a lot of rock climbers, but that doesn't make them tree trimmers.

A little food for thought cole. I worked with a coworker who did trees on the side. He was trimming a tree with branches in the high tension lines, and didn't call the power company, because he did the work under the table. Thought he would get caught and in trouble, and it cost him his life He had climbing spikes that strapped onto his ankles, to dig into the tree trunk, and lean back on his belt harness. The limb contacted the 20,000 volt line, arced though his chainsaw to his hands, when the current arced directly into the middle of his chest, grounding him totally into the wet treetrunk. It literally blew a hole in his chest, he never knew what hit him. Another coworker who lived next door told us at work what a gruesome sight it was.

Just be careful.

April 22, 2012
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If you get bored in the trees, try this for a new hobby! Laugh

April 23, 2012
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Careful indeed, never be too careful when using chainsaws, ropes, riggs, especially up off of the ground.

The electric issues is why I snapped at the neighbors.....I'll not get anywhere near it, and especially not with a pruning pole or saw of any type....too dangerous and proper grounding gear is off the chain expensive..

I'm a sensible person when it comes to labor, I know what it takes to do certain kinds of labor, most people today simply can't do it........especially without the proper experience. Tree trimming is very very dangerous work, total concentration and focus are necessary for even the easiest of tasks.

The things that can go wrong are too many to name. One that many never consider, is dropping or chucking a 200 lb hunk of limb down from 50 ft up and having it hit a buried gas or water line 😮 😮 😮 😮 Oh it happens, ever so called pros do it on occasion, mostly from being in a hurry to get the work done as fast as possible.

What is a professional tree trimmer/ Arborist anyway???? Personally I've yet to meet one in person. The last guy I hired could literally climb like a freaking monkey, only I discovered that he was using spurs, they are NEVER to be used unless the tree is to be completely removed. Spurs severely damage trees, even thick barked Oaks and Ash trees, kill maples and the like.

He was all done when the giant Oak was more than he could handle.. He told me that he was done and not coming back after half the work he bid had been done...Yep I said you're damn right about that....It'd be best if you never come back out here.............that episode cost him a bit of business....I never bashed him once only said that his work was sub standard and that was only after being asked about it. Three or four locals asked who deadwooded my Oak out front, I told them who and gave my opinion..... Once I showed them the Oak that kicked his butt out back, they all hired someone else.

Anyway I'm going back up today with a goal of five limbs on the small Oak way out back, it's only about 120 years or so old, not nearly as big of a trunk and fairly easy to climb. The goal is to have it open plenty enough to cast some better sunlight on the lawn, and allow the wind to pass through without risk of knocking it down should we get another biblical type of wind storm, or heavy severe T-Storm.

Lot's of things to get off my chest once I get a bad rainy day and a bit of time.

be well,

Cole

PS. Have you see all of the stars in the latest NASA Earth shots taken from space? How about that space rock explosion in the desert?

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