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Mexico getting worse than Bagdad!
October 24, 2010
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Gunmen kill 13 in massacre at a party in Mexico
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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Gunmen stormed two neighboring homes and massacred 13 young people at a birthday party in the latest large-scale attack in this violent border city, even as a new government strategy seeks to restore order with social programs and massive police deployments.

Attackers in two vehicles pulled up to the houses in a lower-middle-class Ciudad Juarez neighborhood late Friday and opened fire on about four dozen partygoers gathered for a 15-year-old boy's birthday party.

The dead identified so far were 13 to 32 years old, including six women and girls, Chihuahua state Attorney General Carlos Salas told reporters at a news conference at the crime scene. The majority of the victims were high school students, a survivor said.

Relatives of the victims gathered outside prosecutors' office, some weeping laments, some shouting demands for justice. All asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals.

"Why, my God, why," shouted the mother of Daniel Figueroa, 16, after she identified her son's body.

"I want to be dead, with my daughter," the mother of a 19-year-old woman killed in the attack told a reporter. "This cannot go on. We want justice, even though nothing can bring her back."

Salas said a total of 20 people were wounded, including a 9-year-old boy. Authorities earlier gave lower numbers for the wounded because some victims were taken by relatives to hospitals throughout the city and were not immediately located.

Residents of Ciudad Juarez, one of the world's deadliest cities, no longer go out much to celebrate because of a violent turf war between the Sinaloa and Juarez cartels, who frequently attack their rivals in bars, restaurants, drug rehab centers and other public places.

One survivor of Friday's massacre said the birthday boy's mother had decided to hold the party at their home, precisely because she thought it was safer. The party spilled over into the neighboring home.

The 16-year-old boy, who did not want to be identified, said an attacker entered one of the homes and asked partygoers about a car parked in front of the home, suggesting the killers may have been following the vehicle. He survived the attack by throwing himself to the floor and other partygoers fell on top of him, shielding him from the bullets.

The survivor said the gunman he saw appeared to be about 20, wearing a baseball cap and carrying a pistol, and simply opened fire after no one answered his questions.

Police found 70 bullet casings from assault weapons typically used by drug gangs whose bloody turf battles have killed more than 2,000 people this year in Ciudad Juarez, across the border from El Paso, Texas.

Salas said the attackers escaped, and police said had no immediate information on any suspects or possible motive. Salas expressed outrage at the situation.

"The criminals do not respect families or their homes," Salas said. "How can they wound young women, how can they severely wound a 9-year-old boy, how is it possible that a group of youths gathering to hold a birthday party wind up like this?"

The Interior Department condemned the killings in a statement and pledged "to help the efforts of state and local authorities re-establish order in Ciudad Juarez."

Some recent attacks on private homes have resulted in apparently innocent people being killed, either because a targeted person was at the gathering or because gunmen simply had the wrong address.

Most recently, attackers stormed two homes on Oct. 17, killing seven people at a party and two others in another house nearby.

And in January, gunmen massacred 15 people at a party in a house not far from the site of Friday's killings. Most of the victims were teenagers, students and athletes.

Investigators later said the attack was apparently carried out by Juarez cartel gunmen looking to kill allies of the Sinaloa cartel. There is no evidence the youths were the targets, and police said the killers may have hit the wrong house.

The city was outraged by the January massacre, leading President Felipe Calderon's government to vow to implement a new strategy for restoring order in Ciudad Juarez, where the army had by then had replaced the disorganized, outgunned local police.

In April, federal police took over public security duties from the army, and about 5,000 federal officers were deployed in Ciudad Juarez.

The federal government also stepped up social programs to try to break the cycle of poverty, broken homes and lack of opportunities that make the city's youths a fertile recruiting ground for the gangs.

Cash aid programs, neighborhood improvement initiatives, educational and job-training programs were part of the new strategy, together with ubiquitous convoys of blue federal police trucks patrolling "safe corridors" throughout the city.

But in light of the recent mass attacks, it is unclear whether the new strategy for the city is having an effect so far. While the bustling industrial hub was known mainly throughout the 1990s for the grisly series of murders of more than 100 young women, the city's youths now bear the brunt of the violence.

In an interview with The Associated Press earlier this month, President Felipe Calderon said the Juarez strategy is a long-term policy.

"We cannot think that all the ground lost regarding opportunities for these young people can be recovered in a few weeks," Calderon said. "If we are building five new high schools and two universities, don't tell me it's not working if classes started a month ago."

October 24, 2010
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Yeah, they're some nasty bastids ....

Next thing you know they'll have some WMD's or be trying to invade the US or carry out some kind of terrorist attacks. Best thing to do would be to invade them, take over their country and appropriate their natural resources ... just to be sure, mind you.

October 24, 2010
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Notice how quickly the Mexican problem is written off... as if it were insignificant. Tell the countless families of the dead Americans and Mexicans how insignificant it is.

No one wants it to happen but the US military may in fact be forced to join the Mexican Army to help sweep the entire country of Mexico.

Of course, if that happens--even with Mexico's blessing--it will be heralded as yet another invasion by the usual, US-hating suspects.

Must be nice, sitting up in the tundras of the North, with that horrible country the United States, providing a buffer and safe haven for you.

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October 24, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: Notice how quickly the Mexican problem is written off... as if it were insignificant. Tell the countless families of the dead Americans and Mexicans how insignificant it is.

I didn't "write it off", I merely pointed out the Media attention it seems to be getting when there are far worse things happening at other locations on the planet.

"frrostedman" wrote:
No one wants it to happen but the US military may in fact be forced to join the Mexican Army to help sweep the entire country of Mexico.

hehehehehe ... yeah, forced to act, that's a good one. The only valid reason for the US to be "forced" into action would be if there were a verified attack on it's soil. That hasn't happened since the attack on Pearl Harbor over 60 years ago. The rest of the military/police actions the US has engaged in (which are numerous), have been to "instill Democracy", or "fight Communism", etc.

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Of course, if that happens--even with Mexico's blessing--it will be heralded as yet another invasion by the usual, US-hating suspects.

And rightly so, although I would like to point out that I don't "hate" US Citizens, only their unbelievably corrupt government.

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Must be nice, sitting up in the tundras of the North, with that horrible country the United States, providing a buffer and safe haven for you.

You're country is not a "buffer" and "safe haven" for people up here, on the contrary, it's a magnet for dislike and animosity. If your country were to be detached from mine, there would be little to no need for it's "buffer". Unlike the US of A, most other countries on the planet respect us and wish us no harm.

October 24, 2010
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"Ninor" wrote: I didn't "write it off", I merely pointed out the Media attention it seems to be getting when there are far worse things happening at other locations on the planet.

Not only did you write it off then, but you just wrote it off again.

There aren't "far worse" things happening elsewhere on the planet. Many cities in Mexico are considered the most dangerous cities on the entire planet.

The reason you are so ill-informed and nonchalant about it is, because you aren't directly threatened and forced to hear about it.

The fact that the situation in Mexico isn't even on your radar, is testament to the fact that big brother US buffers you from any serious threats and protects you from the bullies out there on the playground.

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October 24, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: [quote="Ninor"]I didn't "write it off", I merely pointed out the Media attention it seems to be getting when there are far worse things happening at other locations on the planet.

Not only did you write it off then, but you just wrote it off again.

There aren't "far worse" things happening elsewhere on the planet. Many cities in Mexico are considered the most dangerous cities on the entire planet.

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You're shitting me right???

You really gotta take off those USA biased rose colored glasses Tom.

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"frrostedman" wrote:
The reason you are so ill-informed and nonchalant about it is, because you aren't directly threatened and forced to hear about it.

I'm neither "ill informed", nor "nonchalant" about it. I'm realistic. In the global picture, the current problems in Mexico in relation to the rest of the world are at the bottom of the list.

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The fact that the situation in Mexico isn't even on your radar, is testament to the fact that big brother US buffers you from any serious threats and protects you from the bullies out there on the playground.

Mexico bears Canada little to no ill will. I highly doubt that even if the "Great" USA wasn't there to "buffer" us, that there would be an issue. We don't handle problems the same way America does, which is to say that we look for other methods, instead of violence to solve our problems. Unlike you, we're not victims/pawns of the Industrial Military Complex, who's only concern is to worry about drumming up enough imaginary profitable conflicts to keep the machinery and production line rolling.

Exactly what "bullies" has the USA actually protected us from .... hmmmm???

If anything, the USA has made us more enemies by mere association than anything.

October 25, 2010
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The reason you don't know of any threats you've been protected from... is because you've been buffered by the US! 😛

Your Southern and Western sides are bordered by the US who would have to fight off any attacks coming from those directions. That leaves your East and Northern borders which you are left to defend.

Well, unless the 4 residents of Greenland mount an attack against you, I don't see that being a problem. And from your Northern border, all you have to worry about is if Santa Claus and the elves mount an attack from the North Pole.

This is why you have no need for anything more than a puny army and a few Mounties dressed in candy apple red. The US has to deal with any serious threats.

And I just figured out why your Mounties are dressed in their cute li'l red outfits. If Santa and his terrorist elves ever did invade from the North, they would be met head on by Canada's finest--the Mounties--a bunch of merry men dressed like Santa, half-drunk and bearing gifts of Canadian whiskey and Blackberry phones! With a welcome like that Santa and his terrorist elves would be more likely to just move in and assimilate into your culture; a genius of a plan I must admit! Threat elminated! 😛

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