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December 6, 2010
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Computer games are addictive and use psychological ploys first tested on lab rats

Computer games are dangerously addictive and contain powerful psychological devices designed to make some fans play compulsively, a Panorama investigation will reveal tonight.

A simple technique based on a 1950s study of rats feeding themselves by pressing a lever, which encourages repeat behaviour by rewarding it at random, has effectively been adapted for use in gaming and is feared to encourage addiction.

The situation is so serious that the industry body United Kingdom Interactive Entertainment is now calling for more research on the issue and promising to publish advice for parents helping them to look out for excessive and problem gaming traits in their children.

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Obsessive: The rats would press the lever constantly to get their reward: food. It's the same principle with computer games, according to BBC's Panorama

The programme, Panorama: Addicted to Games?, quotes award-winning computer games designer Adrian Hon, chief creative officer of SixToStart, who admitted that that the technique once used on rats was now common place in computer games.

He told the BBC: ‘In the 1950s scientists discovered that rats which had been trained to feed themselves by pressing a lever, would press it obsessively if the food was delivered randomly.

‘People have discovered that this works on humans as well. If you give people a lever or a button to press and give them random rewards, they will press it all the time’.

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December 6, 2010
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If kids were raised right and not left in front of the TV or game console for hours on end, this wouldn't be a problem.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

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December 12, 2010
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Better watch out for sex and beer.

I partake in both of these for their rewards, and I'm sure many others do too. Just putting it out there.

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

December 12, 2010
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"Tairaa" wrote: Better watch out for sex and beer.

I partake in both of these for their rewards, and I'm sure many others do too. Just putting it out there.

Laugh Laugh Yeah I hear's ya loud and clear my friend.

I agree with Wing here, good point and very accurate. We are currently having problems, minor problems with the local education system---they are pushing electronics big time, playing it up as a learning tool, only my thinking is convenience---touch screens, pda's, ETC---For 1st graders no less.

Oh well---we fight on.

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December 12, 2010
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IMHO what is sad is todays generation and really the generation of our kids has been a great transition into the computer age. No doubt IMHO since the first Atari, it has been a never ending quest for the most hitech games and still everchanging today. Its made couch potatoes out of a generation, who sit for hours playing games. Its also created a culture of everyone having home computers, and looking up information for reports take seconds, I'm surprized we even have a library left with books in it.

On the other side of this coin is the fact, every single job in this world is now affected by computers. From being a checker in a market, to a machinist, a car salesman, draftsman, nobody is not affected by the computer. We live in a computer world, and our kids are the first to be fully prepared for it. Old farts are computer illiterate and just peck along making do. All our kids are so computer savvy from games, its just a natural thing to understand for them. We no long teach skills like hand drafting of blueprints, and many other manual skills, we teach how to operate computers that are programed to do these tasks. Even the checker at the market doesn't hand enter numbers, its all barcodes and scanners. When is the last time you recieved a Fed Ex or UPS? Handheld scanners, no more writing on pads. ATM's, online banking, Email, every computer gadget at our fingertips. You never see mechanical controls on things anymore, its all a computer chip, forinstance our old microwave still has mechanical timers and dials, but anything now is all touch pad.

We are completly in a computer age, including all our phones, TV service, etc. We are completly converting to all computer billing, direct deposits, atms. Cash money will someday be non-existant, writing checks is almost nonexistant. So using computers in the classroom really is a mandatory thing IMHO becasue we have gone to the computer age, every kid needs to kow it, and the best way appears to be from understanding computer logic by playing many of these games.

Kids today just advance in computer upgrades easily becasue they "get it" , its second nature to them. People my age struggle with it because we were not raised with it. Even in my profession, we made the transition in welding to all computer types of welding. I went back to school to learn robotics in the 80's, which led to me working for 20 years in that robotic program at Rocketdyne.

December 12, 2010
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Its made couch potatoes out of a generation

Uhm, TVs?

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December 13, 2010
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"Cole_Trickle" wrote: I agree with Wing here, good point and very accurate. We are currently having problems, minor problems with the local education system---they are pushing electronics big time, playing it up as a learning tool, only my thinking is convenience---touch screens, pda's, ETC---For 1st graders no less.

I heard about that. Ignoring my shock that they haven't stolen them yet, I think that something like that is more detrimental to the learning environment anyways. Computers should be the only student-based electronic device in use at school (not including classes like visual arts and such), and only then used by high school and up.

I don't know. I partake in a good game whenever it's around, but I have the decency and awareness to know that it's just a game, and my real-world relationships and encounters are infinitely more important. My parents paid close attention when I started getting into that hobby, and I know that if I showed any sign of turning into something like what's described in that article, they would've thrown all that stuff right out the window.

Good parenting, being strongly involved in how your kid thinks and feels when it comes to video games and reality, and close examination of what games contain is all that's needed in order to make sure that some brat doesn't run five people over because they, "saw it in GTA".

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

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