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November 13, 2011
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Quite surprised that none here have ventured down this path. Any thoughts on this horrific crime?

As for me............probably write a book!

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June 23, 2012
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Had to search for this thread, is had moved back many pages. Sandusky as we have all herd by now was convicted on 45 of the 48 counts, handcuffed and taken into custody. They have already said he will die in jail, and facing a possible 442 year sentence. If that is all not shocking enough, yesterday Sandusky's stepson Matt, issued a statement, "he was abused by his stepfather, and was willing to testify," however the defense had rested, but were told the State would have another surprize whitness. His son Matt is now a 33 year old man, and he did not attend the verdict today.

I'm very sure Joe Paterna if alive, would have been greatly affected by this verdict, and hearing of so many victims who testified and were credible, as the truth came out. It would have been a real dose of reality if he though he had not done enough as it was, that the magnatude of this, was of epic porportion. God help any of these city officials, University officials, State officals who knew of this and conspired to let it be left alone, hush it up and it would go away.

I'm not sure if that conspiracy happened or not, but if it did, and they knew Sandusky was a pedifile, and seen with a minor boy, that is obstruction of justice. I'm not sure if the victims, now knowing how many others were victims, and knowing it was covered up, may now sue everyone from the State down to the University, and local Police. Especially if they became victims, after the date he as caught in the shower.

My observations of Sandusky, and Mrs. Sandusky were that he was totally oblivious to his actions, and she did not have a clue.

June 24, 2012
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Sandusky is under suicide watch, and being review for his mental and physical condition. They say he will be in the gerneral population of 18-79 year olds, until he ages out of that, and they move him to a prison for older men, at that age.

Its just beginned for him. He will be forced to do sexual abuse thearpy in prison. 4 more victims have come forward in addition to his step son a few days ago. they expect civil suits to begin, and Mrs Sandusky has hired a lawyer. Before its over, civil suits will probably take everything they have. I'm guessing that, like OJ Simpson, certain assets will not be able to be touched, forinstance his pension from Penn State will probably protect her, and I doubt if they can attach things like Social Security Benifits. OJ had a NFL pension of over $200,000 per year, which Goldman could not attach. My gut feeling is that Mrs. Sandusky, maybe knows a lot more than she has let on, and maybe knew about the Son's abuse a long time ago. Maybe just closed her eyes to it all, they both seemed totally oblivous, like nothings wrong, no clue. They certainly are having a reality check right now.

July 2, 2012
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The sad truth is coming out, and Joe was part of the cover up. How humaine was all of this to the boy in the shower, and to victims after?

Joe Paterno Reportedly Played Major Role in Penn State Cover-Up
By Connor Simpson | The Atlantic Wire – Sat, Jun 30, 2012EmailShare0PrintRelated ContentJoe Paterno Reportedly Played Major …
CNN have reportedly been informed of the contents of emails between top Penn State officials that allege a cover-up of a 2001 incident involving Jerry Sandusky, and the messages seem to implicate that it was Joe Paterno's idea to not report Sandusky.

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Earlier this month, news broke that emails existed between former Penn State President Graham Spanier, Vice President Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley were aware of a 2001 incident between Sanducky and a child, and that they decided it would be "humane" to not report Sandusky to authorities.

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The emails reportedly never mention Sandusky by name, instead referring to him as "the subject" or "the person." The first email, sent 16 days after Mike McQueary reported witnessing Sandusky in the shower with a boy, was from Vice President Schultz to athletic director Curley explaining the plan was to "talk with the subject [Sandusky]... contact the charitable organization [Second Mile]... and contacting the Department of Welfare."

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But, a few days later, Curley apparently wrote this in an email to President Spanier:

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone, but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person.. tell him the information we received... and tell him we are aware of the first situation."

They develop a plan to deal with the problem in house, to tell Sandusky there's a problem and offer professional help. Curley writes in an email that if Sandusky cooperates, they'd be willing to work with him. If not, they'd have to inform Second Mile and the Department of Welfare. Former university President Spanier was supportive of the new idea, but was also aware how bad it would be if people found out they didn't report Sandusky:

"The only downside for us is if the message isn't 'heard' and acted upon, and we become vulnerable for not having reported it. But that can be assessed down the road."

It was in that same email that Spanier used "humane" to describe the way they were planning on handling the situation. All three men have been fired from Penn State, but Schultz and Curley could face perjury charges for lying to the grand jury if these allegations are true. Besides Spanier's acknowledging how awful it is that they didn't report Sandusky abuse, the emails will hit Paterno's legacy the hardest if it's true the university decided to not go to authorities after a conversation he had with Tim Curley. Watch the full CNN report here:

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July 5, 2012
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it's all awful..this kind of crap goes on all over the place, though..I still await the Boy Scouts big scandal..as I am sure it will happen, eventually...

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July 5, 2012
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E-mails have come to light which indicate that they knew, ( they ) being those running the show at Penn State, and simply covered it up. Not only that, they kept the guy near to the University allowing him access to the facility as well as the kids.........

The audacity/ignorance/arrogance of these leaders is blatantly evident based on this action alone................it's more than likely what really killed Jo Pa....the psychological tole must have been a huge burden.

I've always said, and yes this is merely my opinion, that there is more than likely more than just Sandusky abusing kids at Penn State.............if not Penn State than surely someone of the board or near the board of the foundation Sandusky was said to have set up " The Second Mile " or WTF ever it is.......How else would anyone ever go along with such a cover-up?????????

At first the media named a few people on that board.........since then those first mentioned have distanced themselves from any ink related to that foundation........some of the names are of very very famous people... 😉

Not implying anything....................just look it up for yourself if you've an interest....probably wiped clean by now. I do remember a few...

Imagine the liability born from such a ridiculous decision to sweep it all under the rug.

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August 11, 2012
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Go back to the beginning of the thread and refer to my 2ND Post...If you will.

This is very very important because it will illustrate just exactly how this thing took place for so very long, with none of any real substance, power, taking any relevant action.

It's been reported today/yesterday that the FBI is actively investigating the possibility that Sandusky's ridiculous foundation was nothing more than a cover for a Sex Ring.. That he passed off some of the victims to other Men closely connected to Penn State..

Stop and think...Just exactly how big was Joe Pa after all...My opinion....Not very big at all, the investigation will prove this in one of only two ways.

1 ) It will be proven so and all will be exposed.
2 ) The investigation will suddenly stop dead in it's tracks as the bread crumbs lead to places off limits to those charged will Investigating..

I said this in the very beginning to Dan Patrick via e-mail.

For this to have gone on so long undetected can mean only one thing. Others must have had to have been involved, only those would be people 10 X's larger than either Joe Pa or Penn State itself. JMHO.

Maybe they let some low level dude fall on his sword as a token for those violated, maybe not......one can only hope that someone has enough balls to do what's right, not only for and by the victims, but by the level of, rule of the Law.

I said in the very beginning...................there were/are so VERY VERY high profile people associated with that Foundations board, on it even......I'll not name names, one can look for themselves. That's if they still exist and haven't as of yet been deleted into oblivion.

What do/did they know? What will they or have they done since?

Time will tell.

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August 11, 2012
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The only thing good our of all this is possibly the floodgates of victims coming forward, not just in this Penn State situation, but in similar things all over the country from high schools to scouts. We seem to live in a era where coming out is a trend, from Gays coming out, to notable people coming out with stories of abuse, and cases like this of sexual abuse. WE are no longer a society of keeping things quiet and not letting things out. These preditors depend that the victims would rather be ashamed and remain quiet, than to admit to this kind of thing. The shame and embarrassment of it, is like victims of rape thinking it was there fault. I think a lot of people are shaking in their boots right now, not only the predetors, but those who covered things up. We all know how the Catholic Church is paying for their own coverups, now a major university, and that might spread to levels of the city officials who swept this under the carpet, for the sake of the money made with the team for the town. They all knew this would ruin them. Unfortunatly the ones who will pay the price will be the sorounding citizens of that town, employees of the University who may loose jobs as the University enrollment declines. Its a mess for Penn State, what new student would pick them to go to now. Thats why they covered this up, the scandel would distroy the football and the University, and it will.

August 14, 2012
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I agree with a lot of your reason, only this isn't, or wasn't about money or the University, or the Football program....It was about powerful people engaging in an activity that they wanted to keep engaging in.....a sickness, or illness if you will..

You see it ( if you're willing to look ) in almost every aspect of today's society.

The victims at first are stripped of this innocence and then exploited....some times exploited for money ( I can show many many examples of this ) sometimes, like in this case, for personal satisfaction....

The story put forward by the Media is always the obvious..." Oh they wanted to protect their cash cow " " The program " That's pure bullshit............the truth is that they wanted to protect themselves and keep on keeping on with their sick and twisted fascination with under-aged boys.....They all should be shot for such criminal activity...JMHO

This is going on in ( as you say ) many many places within today's world.....it's both very sad, and very very sick..

I've an opinion about many things in this regard but should remain silent as to not inflame those who lack the knowledge or guts to see the light.

Take closeted gay politicians for example......Why must they always live a lie by having a token wife and 2 kids to hide behind? Think about it! Everyone here can name more than just a few, only will they do it and then talk about how they feel about it. These are people governing and making decisions that affect your everyday world........

This Penn State thing is bigger than Football, I said that in the very beginning. It went on far too long and that could only happen because people involved were in a position to cover it up as if nothing sinister was really going on.. Who knows how much money was paid to people to do " WHATEVER " Shut up, look away, 4 get about it............I mean common sense say's this has to be the case...

Having the FBI involved only ( in my opinion) validates that point to a tee.

Blackmail is common practice in the circles where these kinds of people operate. Getting caught with an under-aged boy, complete with photos would tend to have someone on a string for a LIFETIME...

The Elite of the world run many many ops via blackmail, some just via Money..others via control...Who knows how deep this Penn State Crime really goes?

What will be lost in all the smoke and mirrors? The victims of course. They get lost when the trail bumps up against someone involved who signs the paychecks of those charged with finding the guilty... 😉

Cole

November 13, 2011
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The almighty game of football, and image of a University, was the prioriety. And the students rioted for the honor of almighty coach, who kept his mouth shut with them. Sports needs to take a good look at who we put on pedistals, and shut our eyes to, over a stupid game.

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