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Ewe Shee-ple
October 16, 2009
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Many here, reading, thinking, playing Laugh Probably have some guarded concerns about the
" SWINE FLU " What's real, what can happen, might, maybe, WON'T. Possibly whether it's real or fiction, came from a Big old Hawg in Mexico, or raised in a test tube to be released for PROFIT. 😀 Nah they would never ever do that now would they!

Regardless of where you stand on the ( I'LL CALL IT A THING ) The facts are the facts so throw the CONSPIRACY ACCUSATIONS aside, think for yourselves, it may in fact give you a little insight into just how BIG the SWINE FLU stakes really are.

Drugmakers, Doctors Rake in Billions Battling H1N1 Flu

Laugh Laugh They said Billions and billions 😉

Americans are still debating whether to roll up their sleeves for a swine flu shot, but companies have already figured it out: vaccines are good for business.

Already figured it out eah 🙄 Come on Shee-ple this is where your brains should kick in, just consider the things going on in, well lets just say the word Economy Laugh Maybe, or just a curious coincidental circumstance of an INFECTED MEXICAN HAWG unleashing the Swine Flu.?

As always with pandemic flus, taxpayers are footing the $1.5 billion check for the 250 million swine flu vaccines that the government has ordered so far and will be distributing free to doctors, pharmacies and schools. In addition, Congress has set aside more than $10 billion this year to research flu viruses, monitor H1N1's progress and educate the public about prevention.

Drugmakers pocket most of the revenues from flu sales, with Sanofi-Pasteur, Glaxo Smith Kline and Novartis cornering most of the market.

Laugh Laugh They said " AS ALWAYS "

Now you're free to believe any and all you choose to, just don't piss down someone's back and try to tell them that it's raining. 😉

The world public ( IMHO ) Has been sold a bill of goods with this " COOKED UP IN A LAB "

Swine Flu business~~ It is a business don;t ya know!

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October 16, 2009
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Bump! Yeap. We have a weak flu, and for this we need some emergency (and expensive) vaccines to combat them. $$$$$

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

October 16, 2009
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We have four topics on this already.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

October 16, 2009
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"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

October 17, 2009
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Can there really BE too many threads devoted to this pertinent issue??!!

On TMZ, not long ago, a paparazzi asked Paris Hilton if she was worried about swine flu and she said something like, "No..I don't eat pigs"

Recently she even adopted a little piggie for herself. I hear. Just like George Clooney? (this'll get back to him and he'll curse me for sure...lol..love him,. FYI..looks like Cary Grant, don't yah think?..see, how I protect myself?..he does look like Cary Grant, though..no..really..he does)
okay..is she not adorable?

I love her, personally.
Paris..you rock, girrl

I'm pretty sure I already had H1N1/swine flu..last January..before it was an official 'outbreak' (I live near the Mexican border)

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

October 17, 2009
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"Wing-Zero" wrote: We have four topics on this already.

Yes but not one that tells it like ti really is. A stinking pile of test tube manufactured SWINE FLU released to improve the bottom lines of Drug, Chemical, and Home product companies. It appears, as the article eluded to, to be working as Planned.

What's next tsunami INSURANCE? How about Earthquake survival gear. Winter is coming, how about ICE AGE TEE's or better yet " LOnG Johns " Laugh Laugh

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October 17, 2009
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What's next tsunami INSURANCE? How about Earthquake survival gear. Winter is coming, how about ICE AGE TEE's or better yet " LOnG Johns "

In California, you better have an Earthquake supply of food and water. And we just had a Tsunami warning after the Samoa earthquakes. Nobody ever thinks it can happen to them.

October 17, 2009
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Always 2 sides to every coin, so if you have kids or elderly you can beleive things like this or you can put all you faith in a conspiracy expert telling you its all a hoax. You decide!

WASHINGTON — Swine flu is causing unprecedented illness for so early in the fall — including a worrisome count of child deaths — and the government warned Friday that vaccine supplies will be even more scarce than expected through this month.

Federal health officials said 11 more children have died in the past week because of the virus.

Manufacturer delays mean 28 million to 30 million doses, at most, will be divided around the country by the end of the month, not the 40 million-plus that states had been expecting. The new count from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention means anxiously awaited flu-shot clinics in some parts of the country may have to be postponed.

It also delays efforts to blunt increasing infections. Overall, what CDC calls the 2009 H1N1 flu is causing widespread disease in 41 states, and about 6 percent of all doctor visits are for flu-like illness — levels not normally seen until much later in the fall.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says about half of the child deaths since September have been among teenagers.

And overall for the country, deaths from pneumonia and flu-like illnesses have passed what CDC considers an epidemic level.

The CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat (SHU'-kit) says, "These are very sobering statistics."

This new strain is different from regular winter flu because it strikes the young far more than the old, and child deaths are drawing particular

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attention. Eighty-six children have died of swine flu in the U.S. since it burst on the scene last spring — 43 of those deaths reported in September and early October alone, said CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat.

That's a startling number because in some past winters, the CDC has counted 40 or 50 child deaths for the entire flu season, she said, and no one knows how long this swine flu outbreak will last. Half of those early fall child deaths are among teenagers, also surprising as preschoolers are thought to be most vulnerable.

Also in contrast to regular winter flu, swine flu sometimes can cause a very severe viral pneumonia in otherwise healthy young adults, the World Health Organization warned Friday.

Typically, influenza weakens people so they're vulnerable to bacterial pneumonia, especially those over age 65. But the new H1N1 can dive deeper into the lungs, in "small subsets" of patients who go into respiratory failure within days, said WHO medical officer Dr. Nikki Shindo.

"Do not delay the treatment," she said as WHO ended a three-day meeting of 100 international flu specialists gathered in Washington.

The new swine flu strain also may have hit some pigs at the Minnesota State Fair in late August, animals possibly infected by some sick 4-H students. If the infection is confirmed, it wouldn't be a surprise: A sick farm worker first infected pigs in Canada last spring, and herds have been hit in Australia and Argentina, too. The virus doesn't spread to humans who eat pork.

Fortunately, most people recover from the new strain with simple at-home care, just as with the regular flu. While there aren't precise counts, states have reported more than 2,000 deaths from pneumonia or flu-like illnesses to the CDC since Aug. 30. And Schuchat said other tracking systems show those deaths have reached the level that each year is used to declare an influenza epidemic, months early.

As of Wednesday, states had ordered 8 million of the 11.4 million doses of swine flu vaccine the government has ready to ship. Just over half of the vaccine now available is in shot form and the rest as a nasal spray. First in line for scarce H1N1 vaccine are supposed to be pregnant women, anyone age 6 months to 24 years, health care workers and people under 65 with flu-risky conditions.

CDC's Schuchat urged patience, saying eventually enough vaccine will be here for everyone who wants it: "I know this is frustrating for people."

Regular winter flu kills 36,000 Americans a year, and around the country some clinics aren't getting shipments of seasonal vaccine as quickly as expected either, as manufacturers juggle the extra work. About 82 million doses of seasonal vaccine have been shipped, and 114 million eventually will arrive, enough for typical demand, Schuchat said.

Also Friday, judges in New York granted temporary restraining orders blocking mandatory flu vaccinations for health care workers who argued they should have a choice. In addition to New York, many hospitals nationwide have mandated shots for their employees this year so they don't infect patients or have to miss work.

Even though swine flu is all that's circulating here now, the regular winter flu that targets older adults has hit other countries along with the new H1N1. South Africa packed in two distinct flu seasons in one winter. WHO's Dr. Vivek Shinde said the extremely early swine flu start in the Northern Hemisphere increases the chance that those countries, too, will get a double-whammy, making it important not to skip the seasonal shot.

"There is a lot of winter left between now and April," he told the WHO meeting.

October 17, 2009
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"Cole_Trickle" wrote: What's next tsunami INSURANCE?

We have that here near the coastline. You know, because tsunamis tend to show up near water?

How about Earthquake survival gear.

They're actually called Bug Out Bags, and you tend to make them yourself. There are a few people who put together basic stuff for you like medical equipment, flashlights, blankets, MRE's, etc. I think they're pretty lacking, but they give you the bare minimum to GTFO of dodge.

Winter is coming, how about ICE AGE TEE's or better yet " LOnG Johns " Laugh Laugh

You mean Parkas?

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

October 17, 2009
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I'm just far enough inland to not fear tsunamis... if one reaches me, it'll be the least of our concerns. But I do carry both hurricane and sinkhole insurance, it's a necessity down here.

Smile, G2, Cole has forgotten how close he is to the Cumberland Fault. 😯

WZ, in California we called them earthquake kits, we had two old GI footlockers set up with the usual survival item list, including about a dozen MREs. Here on the Gulf coast we call them hurricane kits, skip the MREs but add a 5kw generator and 10 gallons of gas. The generator will operate our well pump, fridge and freezer while the gators nibble our toes. 😯 Laugh

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