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Entrepreneur Elon Musk On The "Hot-Seat" At TESLA
November 24, 2017
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Entrepreneur Elon Musk may not be as enlightened an individual as you may think. You decide. Below is a summary of the article TESLA DEFENDS FRAGILE IMAGE / Dismissals Could Hurt Firm's Hiring, Retention.

EAST BAY TIMES SUNDAY EDITION; November 19, 2017

By Louis Hansen

(408) 920-5043

Ihansen@bayareanewsgroup.com

1.)  "Tesla's October dismissal of 700 workers has left former employees angry and outspoken. Some, such as Frank Morales, have refused to sign a separation agreement they feel is unfair and restrictive. The agreement bars former employees from disparaging the company or executives who fire them, according to a copy obtained by this news organization."

2.) "Analysts have kept a close watch on employee turnover in key positions. High-profile executives in autonomous driving, batteries, finance and business development have left the company this year."

3.) "More than a dozen current and former employees interviewed said their dismissals came with little or no warning and were fired weeks before stock options vested. Many added that morale suffered at the plant, as workers were unsure of their job status."

4.) "The company also has angered outgoing employees by requiring them to sign a broad non-disparagement clause as part of their separation package."

5.) "The separation agreements ban ex-employees from bad-mouthing the company, its executives, investors, affiliated companies, and contractors and products. Fired employees are prohibited from specifically criticizing Musk, in return for two weeks severance pay."

6.) "Scores of workers and supporters have protested at the Fremont factory since the  terminations. Some former employees have joined a class-action suit, saying the dismissals were actually layoffs-a distinction that could bring ex-employees up to 60 days of back pay."

7.) "Employment lawyers say it's unusual to fire hundreds of employees within weeks for performance issues."

CONCLUSION:

Elon Musk (Space X) has set his sights on a manned mission to Mars in the immediate future. With his current track record at TESLA, one has to believe that the astronauts going to Mars have to be considered "expendable assets" in the eyes of Elon Musk. 

November 24, 2017
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Thank you for taking the time to reply to my posting. I have not been able to confirm this but I have heard that Elon Musk is getting government subsidies for TESLA and Space X.

November 24, 2017
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I am definitely not a fan of Elon Musk, or his companies. I have heard every know it all badmouth and say asinine things about NASA, and its contractors, who I retired from. they scoff at the cost of things, with no knowledge of requirements, and conditions government contractors have to meet. 

Tesla has its problems, and I was always under the impress they would be some sort of economy car, but they are cars most can never afford. They are $80,000 cars I believe, so not a market that appeals to lower income people. The solar company I do not think is selling like hotcakes.

 

Space X is a direct competitor of the company I retired from, build rocket engines for 30 years. The cost of the shuttle was expensive, but Elon Musk benefits form  technology my company invented, or new technology that was not thought of yet, that greatly reduces cost. 3D printing is one one them. Elon has a big vision of Mars, buy my company has been in production of the Mars mission rocket and Orion spacecraft quite a while. Space X has never launched a human, and the certification for manned flight is a monumental milestone, which they have been set back by rocket failures, and a engine failure in test just 2 weeks ago. Those are major setbacks to a company that the public is unaware of, and sends investigations requiring can't fail solutions, and exact reasons why it failed. Cheaper means less quality, corners cut, but the space shuttle program was so rigorous engines required zero defect welding, and were the most complex engines ever built, as well as the most complex thing built by humans. Space X engines are like comparing a old VW engine, to a Indy racecar engine. Nowhere near the complexity, as the space shuttle engines were throttleable. 

Space X has many visions, and people who work their love it, but they are worked like the old Apollo days, and are given stocks in their pay agreement. They are known to lay off in droves, if you don't cut the mustard, and many people have left disgruntled. Several of my old coworkers are now at Space X. You are worked to the bone, he is very much in the shops, and my biggest observation watching televised launched, is you do not see people that are older, like where I worked. His work force is noticeably fresh out of college to lower 30's, nobody older and expericed in the crowd of workers gathered watching the launch. 

Living in Los Angeles, his tunnel system for cars IMHO is just stupid. We are overdue for a big major earthquake in southern california. His dream along with Jerry Browns stupid bullet train are both just dumb ideas. Nobody needs to be inside tunnels or 200MPH trains traveling the San Andres fault.  

Last the cost of Space X is lowballing prices, and one single human wants to monopolize our space program. I''ll take our government and NASA over allowing a one owner company control our space ventures. 

December 2, 2017
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If you do not think Musk is a total idiot, this might convince you.  He has said in the maiden flight of the Falcon Heavy, the rocket with 27 engines, he will use the test launch to put his Tesla Roadster into orbit in Mars, stating it will remain in orbit for 1 billion years. 

this turns the space program into a total farce, and we are putting the hands of much of our space program into one mans control.  Totally ridiculous. 

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