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Egypt In Turmoil !
January 29, 2011
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Protesters Storm Government Buildings in Cairo

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January 28, 2011
Thousands of protesters try to storm the foreign ministry, state TV building in Cairo, defying curfew.

Egypt’s military deployed on the streets of Cairo to enforce the nighttime curfew as the sun set Friday on a day of rioting and chaos that amounted to the biggest challenge ever to authoritarian President Hosni Mubarak’s 30-year regime.

Flames rose up across a number of cities from burning tires and police cars. Even the ruling party headquarters in Cairo was ablaze in the outpouring of rage, bitterness and utter frustration with a regime seen as corrupt, heavy-handed and neglectful of grinding poverty that afflicts nearly half of the 80 million Egyptians.

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January 29, 2011
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It is my assumption that if this continues the military will
not oblige. People are not willing to compromise there,
and they want whats his butt out of there regardless
if he got rid of the rest of the government or not.

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January 29, 2011
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From what I've seen, the military is more or less sympathetic to the protesters and their actions, evident by armored trucks carrying protesters around Cairo, and members of the armed forces embracing protesters.

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January 29, 2011
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This is more than just a bit nerve racking, huh?
Yikes

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January 29, 2011
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"Mubarak's son and onetime presumed heir apparent Gamal has fled the country to London with his brother, Alaa."
http://gawker.com/5746581/the-latest-de ... from-egypt

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January 29, 2011
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"Wing-Zero" wrote: From what I've seen, the military is more or less sympathetic to the protesters and their actions, evident by armored trucks carrying protesters around Cairo, and members of the armed forces embracing protesters.

Yeah after I read this I looked into some more information,
definitely appears that army is going to have to make a
decision which way they are going to go because civilians
are not letting up.

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January 29, 2011
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Still, the fact that the Mubarak regime has shut down the internet, cell phones, etc. shows that the current path is dictatorial and destructive. Mubarak also believes in gunning down Palestinian refugees who have fled Israeli-imposed displacement. Yet, we provide them with $ 1 billion in military aid, including the tear gas cans the police use on demonstrators. We need a complete re-evaluation of our relationship with Egypt and that means calling for Mubarak's exile! >:O

Well, I hear the military is sort of "standing down" and it's really the federal police (for lack of a better term) who are using force against the protesters. In Tunisia, the regime fell because it didn't have the backing of the military. ...Maybe something similar will happen in Egypt?

All I know is that this Revolution is different from the "color"/CIA-backed revolutions like we saw in Iran against Ahmadinejad. It is not the upper-class/comfortable classes rebelling, it is the lower echelons, those who are impoverished by soaring inflation and high food prices, including college students and those in their 30s and 40s, etc. who are rising against this regime.

And kudos to Anonymous for launching attacks against the Egyptian government...some here would consider that a "crime"...but an unjust law is no law at all (MLK Jr.)

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January 29, 2011
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The latest reports from the BEEB (BBC) state that the Military is now refusing to back Mubarak....

Looks like the butterfly effect from Tunisia is in full gear. Israel is cooked...

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January 30, 2011
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However it looks like many protesters have been injured and
some killed.

Here is a transcript of Obamas latest words to
Egypt.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1887150/

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January 30, 2011
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it's such a messed up situation..Egypt..and the Middle East/Persia, in general.
The people there realize they have what the whole world needs..oil..and they..the general population if many of the coutnries are wonderign why, if they have what the whole world wants..why they, so many of them are still living in crap.
I mean, it comes down to that..that..and a religiously driven, serious culture clash between them and the modern western world.

We supposedly want to push freedom and democracy all over the world (remember how proud were were of iraq's big vote? All those blue fingers displayed on our 'news' shows)
BUT..we also want the most stable cooperative, pro US interest governments, we can get over there..we have few geniune allies there..And he was one...

I think the US's fear is that in allowing the people to geniunely have their freedom, their say..that the whole region will become Muslim fundamentalist and anti US..because we have burned so many bridges over there, historically (not just the US , so much, as modern western society, in general..starting with the British Empire ..and maybe the Roman Empire before that)

We'd probably not even really care so much what is happening there..not our business..beyond the human compassion in those that are that way..but the US government does care..because the fact is
We need Middle Eastern oil like we need the air we breath..
we need a steady supply of it and we need it as cheap as possible..and this all..what's going on in Egypt further threatens that..as if the situation/s over there weren't tenuous enough already
it's a very tricky path
tricky, tricky, tricky

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