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Democratic Presidential Candidate show of Racial Segregation
October 14, 2015
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John Greenewald
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Last night, I watched the Democratic Presidential Debate with great interest. Every word, I challenged my own beliefs to hear "the other side" and see where those candidates were at.

I want to post this, which I am sure will create controversy, but here goes anyway.

A question was posed last night by a young man asking the candidates if "Black Lives Matter" (#blacklivesmatter) or if "All Lives Matter". I was appalled to see no one really came back and say "All Lives Matter."

This is a PERFECT example of the 'racism' in our country. Many democrats/liberals love to call people like me racist, because we don't like President Obama or his policies. Yet, we have a CLEAR show of segregation by last night's, Democratic, Presidential Candidates. Someone should have stood strong, and clearly said "ALL LIVES MATTER -- no matter your color, race, religion or beliefs." Why? Because that's what *I* believe -- and that's how (or at least I hope) that most American's believe.

The CLEAR display of segregating our Black American population was put forth last night -- and I am not afraid to stand up -- and say THAT is the problem in this country -- not racism itself.

Sorry guys. Whether you are white, black, yellow, brown or green -- and whether you are politically right leaning, left leaning, or planted in the center -- I say with a strong conviction that ALL LIVES MATTER here in America. And to get beyond the REAL racism that exists in this country (because yes, of course, there are issues that need to be dealt with), we have to stop singling out groups of people, and attempting to put Group A or Group B on some pedestal to "build them up."

Groups A and B need to stand on their own -- shine and be a beacon of American pride, morality, determination and passion for bringing us all together and showing what it truly is to be American.

If I started a campaign, and I pushed the hashtag: #whitelivesmatter -- what would you all think of me?

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October 15, 2015
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John,

 

I understand what you are trying to say and tend to agree.

 

I mostly want to be left alone and not dragged into the political sewer of  both counterfeit parties...incluiding what they call racism..

 

Let me say or put it in this light and simplicity...for you and the readers out here....

 

All lives matter ..except when votes and money are on the line...just ask the abortion crowd...and the cut up aborted babies.

 

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October 15, 2015
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I think there is a big diffence between asking "Do Black lives matter?", and asking if you agree with the "Black lives movement"?  The only people who think their race or religion is above all others, calls everyone other than themselves infidels.  Not a single person I know, or religion I know of does not teach that the reverence and value of life, all life, any life, matters.  In that regard this belief is colorblind.  

That is not the same thing as what we have all watched in the "Black Lives Matter Movement", where demostrations were hateful, and insited hate twards all cops. Wished death to cops, and celebrated when some got murdered for no reason.   They chanted death chants to cops, celebrated the death of cops, and are racist as it comes.  They have no real belief that anyones life matters except themselves.  

The level of black on black crimes and murders, shows they could care less about black lives.  In the most high profile cases, these were not exactly model citizens, like in Furgeson. A white cops life was demolished proven he did nothing wrong, and the kids father screamed "burn the bitch down", so they did.  They burned and looted stores that had nothing to do with anything, stealing TV's to Tennis shoes, not one of these people could care less the boy was shot dead.  In Baltimore, the cops being prosocuted is a farse.

October 16, 2015
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Greeny and John,

 

The Democrat party is become a party of fractionating the nation on the lines of certain causes in order to secure votes. They are predators on the backs and wallets of the American public. They will pander to every extreamist group ...on the edge faction in order to grab them emotionally to their cause...votes. They will divide and segregate a nation and play heavily the blame game to fractionate and divide a nation further...all this while calling ordinary Americans ...extreamists...and any other name or label they decide is appropriate to further stroke votes into their pockets.

 

The Republicans on the other hand are obviously in on the scam by their silence on this method of operation...M/O. They could be teaching the Ameircan public how this works but they are so obviously silent on it and many Americans are beginning to catch on by becoming doubtful about the  true nature of the Republican party...that it is not in fact conservative but the other side of the Hegelian dialectic designed to steer the public in the desired political direction by silence.

 

This is becoming obvious to more and more of the American public ..that the two parties are not the product advertised...on the Republican side..by the fact that people are looking hard at non traditional republicans...or what some call...establishment republicans..but are instead looking at Trump and Carlson. I agree with them though I have my doubts about Trump.

Americans are getting sick and tired of guilt politics..and having to get up every morning and being bombarded by Race...Racism...sex..sexuality...trans genderism .or whatever depravity they want to overlay on the conscience of the American People by guilt maneuverings. They do not want to live their daily lives according to this manipulated template.

 

They find no representation among either democrats or establishment republicans.

They most certainly find no representation among this current administration who seem want to only have race and racism, sex and sexuality, and hostility to religion of the people while so obviously trying to overlay another religion on Americans. They do not find this to be representative of American thinking and values.  This while this current administration tries to label Americans who  do not go along with the obviously schedule program....extreamists.

Americans are becoming awake to this pattern..albeit slowly...that this government has long ago been stolen and hijacked from them...without them being told about it...and the true status of this government.

 

The two parties are not representative of most Americans..

Also they are becoming awake to the concept that the media...all of them are also not representative of most Americans..but only representative of the two phony political parties.

Thinking Americans do not want to get up every day and have or be forced/coerced by  phony leadership or the phony media into looking at the world through the prism of racism...sexuality..or victimization....in lieu of taking care of their daily business. They are learning that this is not leadership..but cheap politics ..for votes.

Americans do not want to be excoriated for going about their daily family business..their private business...that they are racists..Homophobes..anti gendered..or  whatever is the next drama or pabulum for votes. They and their family private business do not want to be manipulated or made merchandize of by the body politic..on both sides via manufactured crisis...and the attempts at dissonance which politically follow.

Many of them are finding disgust with the debates on both sides of the political parties. This because they are realizing that the political process and media manipulations have failed them in this arena.

They are suspecting that this system is serving only itself...not the American People.

 

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Orangetom

October 17, 2015
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orangetom1999 said

The Republicans on the other hand are obviously in on the scam by their silence on this method of operation...M/O. They could be teaching the Ameircan public how this works but they are so obviously silent on it and many Americans are beginning to catch on by becoming doubtful about the  true nature of the Republican party...that it is not in fact conservative but the other side of the Hegelian dialectic designed to steer the public in the desired political direction by silence.

In fairness, if the Republicans started speaking out AGAINST the "Black Lives Matter" movement, what do you think the perception would be? It would only deepen the lefts label of "racism" and they would attempt (probably successfully) to lock in the African American vote.  Not to be racist, but groups tend to vote as a group, and the minority vote is key to winning an election. 

So, are they "in on the scam?" I don't think so. I think they are struggling to defeat the ridiculous labels put on them by the left.

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October 17, 2015
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I'm not sure the Republican party actually does enough to speak out that the things are not true about them. Though part of the problem goes back to the media, which leans too much to the left. It is probably much harder to fight that battle than salmon have to fight to swim upstream. 

I believe the majority of those who follow the Democrats, follow blindly or have allowed the extreme left to take control. It seems like they always give them a pass as though they can do no wrong or just because they say they support the cause of the day. Something that never happens to republicans. You know that if Hillary was a Republican she would already be out of the race. Alec Baldwin is another example. Says something derogatory about gays, but then appolgizes and says he supports gay marriage and the matter gets dropped. And we can't forget Biden, who before Obama got elected says he is a clean and articulate black man. I thought that was a pretty racist statement but again, Democrat, and now he is VP.

I've heard several republicans state they can't do anything, so that is why they do what they do. That could be true, but at least make an attempt to fight. Don't just roll over at the first attempt.

October 17, 2015
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If you are going to find common ground to both Dems and Reps, who are career polititians, it has to be political correctness.  Its a never ending battle to find a scab, and dig at it until you get blood.  One says one thing, and the PC game begins, and all of them are scared to death to say anything about anything.  If you are for the borders being closed up, you are a racist. If you simply think marriage is between a man and woman, you are a bigot.  That is why Trump is on top right now, he does things so PC incorrect, people love him. People hate this PC game, and the black lives matter movement is a perfect example.  Asked the Dems, they all played to PC safe answer, and caved to "yes, black lives matter".  It is the reps. and conservatives who are calling it like it is, the movement is hateful and insiting hate.  Name one Democrat who has done this, name on liberal news agency who has?  Fox has sure said it like it is!

Those who follow the Dems, only want social issues and handouts, with no way or concern how to pay for it.  The debate talked about new promises while they have increased the deficeit to almost 20T, now you will get forgiveness or low int. student loans, FREE tuition for college including illegal mexicans, jobs for everyone, and at least $15 min wage, and say it will be paid for by the top 1% of income earners, the rich.  WHAT A WHOPPER OF A LIE!.  If that were half true, you would have already seen the top 1% pay for all the increase in deficeit over the last 7 years.  Its politially correct to promise the moon, but if you say NO we do not have the money, you just did political suicide not being PC and going along with it. Dems cater to all those with their hand out, give, give, give, just stick it on the deficeit. The black lives matter is just the PC game. 

October 18, 2015
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This technique of causing dissonance or discomfort of others through crisis management ...through labeling ..through mob rule...is one pioneered many years go...In Europe...in their politics...of the early 1900 and into the twentieth century. Radical groups like Young Italy, Young Ireland, Young Turks...etc etc...often caused discord among the populace and the political system.

They have just expanded this technique to todays college students as well as the partisan media here in America. By this technique of dissonance and the public wishing to avoid controversy...and thus ceding to the manipulators..the people and nation can be steered...mostly to the left.

 

The very silence of the Republican party and all of the Republican candidates and also the so called conservative talk show circuit tells me that they are in on the scam..by their silence when they could be teaching the public how this management technique works..

The Republican party is the other side of a Hegelian Dialectic designed and hijacked in order to silently move the American people incrementally to the left..to be like Europeans..like Brits or Continentals..like sheep.

  "Emotions...runaway Emotions"  are the currency of one particular party over the rest of America. Stroking runaway Emotions, as a form of dissonance, is also the currency of most of the media so obviously shilling for one particular party.

The Black Lives Matter movement is a type of controlled stroked dissonance designed to shame and excoriate the entirety of America into ceding or at least censoring us on a multitude of topics while grooming the next generation of voters to vote....emotions..not  thinking. Making all of America guilty of a crime. Holding America socially hostage.

Americans are getting tired and disgusted of this constant pattern of operation...by one group after another after another. Also tiring of the media complicity in this as well as phony leadership...both parties.

 

One political/social group after another...the common denominator is emotional outrage for some social sleight and someone else must needs come off their purse...be silent or curb their opinions...views ..and let them default through without opposition ..without questioning.

Americans who can think for themselves...can think their way through this type of thing and recognize this as a "Shakedown."

The American people who can think for themselves are finding no representation among both political parties....and also the media...Both!!   And these who can think for themselves are a silent but growing number.

 

The Democratic party has tried to emotionally galvanize and organize several initially disconnected groups.....blacks, Homosexuals, women, and now illegal aliens.

The Homosexuals and women are not drawing the emotional following as are the blacks and illegal aliens. But all these groups have one common denominator amongst them.

 

Dissonance...the ability to be politically and socially stroked for their emotional results...useful to political operatives..management techniques..then turned on the American people to make them ashamed and feel guilty unto silence. Dissonance techniques.

When you see this happening over and over and over..and over...it becomes predictable.

 

Black Lives Matter has only replaced Al and Jesse now that their own people have caught onto them and told them to leave Ferguson, MO..they don't want them there.

They have only replaced one group of shakedown artists with another. The black lives Matter movement is controlled at the top by the same "Usual Suspects" as was Al and Jesse.

And like Al and Jesse..they obviously have the silent consent of government to shakedown America.

Certain factions within them are also and obviously approaching the operational techniques of radical Islam ..in going after any opposition.....jihad...and with the silent assent of government.They are stroking unthinking robots to carry out their dissonance and blame game results. When do you think the Southern Poverty Law Center is going to put Black Lives Matters on the terrorist watch list for promoting violence across the country...and shaking down Americans ...verses creating bad guys as SPLC is want to do to justify their existence??

 

It does not take rocket material to see this ..while our leadership looks for domestic terrorism in other places....or creates domestic terrorism in other places....creates bad guys.

 

In the end and with this current administration ...racism..is the very best they can use or misuse to destroy ..shakedown or overturn Everything Americans believe.

As I keep saying ..they area dividers..not uniters.

 

Or as the Lodges say in their publications..and books..."Ordo Ob Chao."

 

"Order from Chaos." Create and manage the Chaos such that the new order can be brought in.

Young Italy, Young Turks, Young Ireland, Even Young America..were all groups controlled at the top by the lodges.

Black lives Matter????  Think about it...

 

Nesta Webster..."Secret Societies and Subversive Movements"

 

Edith Starr Miller....."Occult Theocracy"

 

There are others but these two will suffice for now.

 

Race and Racial Segregation and the emotions used and misused on America  is the very very best the Democrat party has to control America which is why they have become entitlement minded dividers ..not uniters in their M/O. This is not leadership at all. And the Republicans are silent on this. This is not leadership by Republicans as well.

 

I ask myself if either El Rushbo or the Trumpster....have the stones to teach this to the American public such that more of them can cut the puppet strings overlaid upon them without most of them knowing or consenting to this M/O.

 

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October 19, 2015
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I tend to agree in you concept about emotions, which is becoming everyday, the center of obsessions.  Just about everybody is glued to their facebooks and social media, and we are bombarded with emotional nonsence designed for a "like" responce, where we have programmed ourselves to that emotional mindset.  Sunup to sundown, people are doing this on their cellphones, oh look at this, "I bought gas this morning", heading for works now, feel sorry for me"  Serious subject are really never discussed, beyond short comments that scroll away tommorrow, but getting all emotional about " This is our bacon and egg omelete picture, we are at IHOP" like they just saw the Mona Lisa.  Dozens hit the like button, and do not want to face serious issues.  People just do not want to be bothered with real issues, they just want to live in a culture of stupidty.  Don't even get me started on Selfies, "Oh look at me", Like, like, like, everyone is afraid to think, this is stupid.  We are a dummied down society.  

The TV has turned Bruce Jenner into an emotional journey, instead of showing the real dark side of that issue.  Every high profile crime is put on the media as a emotional game trying to sway public opinion.  Issues like BLM like you say, are manipulating public opinion, playing the race card, and playing the PC game.  How dare anyone disagree with a slanted and distorted emotional ploy, and turn you into a racist for doing it. Playing on basic emotions does seem to get results, we are watching it in the policital race, shaming and blaming, the PC card, Race Card, and shutting you down if you disagree, always is part of it. 

October 26, 2015
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Yup...pretty much Greeny 2. That is precisely the pattern I have made great efforts to train myself to spot. Along with spotting this pattern of emotional predators...I have learned to take a close look at the media's involvement in stroking emotions by "Spinning " the news. All of them.

I do not have a facebook account ...not twitter...or whatever is the next social media rage. No interest in it.

I only recently learned how to use one of these new fangled phones which take pictures and send it off in E mail. But I will not be getting a social media account. No interest in it. That is just me..this is about as social as it gets here.

 

I did not  realize all that you described about the social media thing..not having one of those accounts and frequenting those sites..

 

I don't care for a lot of drama or emotions in my life or being surrounded by high maintenance people who cannot take care of their own drama...and expect to dump it off on others so that they can continue to run down the road in Afterburner mode...going nowhere fast.

And that is what I get  or sense about a lot of these fringe groups the government and politicians are trying to move center stage...high maintenance drama queens...causing chaos through entitlement  beliefs everywhere they go.

 

I keep saying and stating that the Democrat party ..race and racism is the only way they know to put guilt on the whole of America and Americans are getting tired and disgusted with it and are beginning to wake up to the shakedown pattern being pulled off on them by the political party as well as the media.

 

Check this one out..I saw this the other night and bookmarked it.

More shakedown coming..the very best they have..peak performance. This is it tops...trying to move these professional chaos managers center stage..for votes. They will pimp out Black Lives Matters in the end..as well as the rest of America for votes and power.

http://upload.democraticunderg.....1251711945

 

You know Greeny...I was told over 30 years ago...that someone was scamming American on the race issue and sweeping a lot of it under the rug about it's true nature.

I was told all those years ago..that the real race war was coming as blacks and latinos, coming across the border, will be fighting for their share in competition ..of government handouts..government tit...welfare. This will be hidden from the knowledge of most Americans while heaping blame and guilt on them for the way they live...by race...and while claiming to fight racism.

History is showing that the fellow who told me this all those years ago..there was great merit to his forecast.

 

Thanks,

Orangetom

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