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November 20, 2010
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For National Football League MVP:

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Full circle indeed!

Bring Em All Home Cole

November 20, 2010
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It's surreal.
Does anyone know, when he was in jail, did he have to train former fight dogs to help folks with special needs or anything like that?
Hope he has grown a heart to match his athletic talents.

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

November 20, 2010
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I've always been thoroughly shocked at just how deep everyone swept his incident under the rug.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

November 20, 2010
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Its a sad statement for our society when a scum bag like him, gets reviered for football, after doing the most dispicable acts imaginable with these dogs. He should have been told, football doesn't want or need him, and banned him for life. If thats the prioriety of football fans, I;m glad I don't waste 2 seconds of my time watching it.

November 21, 2010
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"Wing-Zero" wrote: I've always been thoroughly shocked at just how deep everyone swept his incident under the rug.

It's not been swept away for those who know how to research it, know what certain groups are really capable of.

What Vick did was inhumane there is little doubt about that, but worse and I mean FAR FAR WORSE--Is what this Governments Military forces have done to innocent men, women, and children all over the world these past 3 decades---The chants at sporting events of USA USA USA--make we want to puke--people are either ignorant of their environment, or simply don't care.

What gets swept away are all of the photos, and other evidence of the destruction brought by a failed foreign policy--- I have some if you have the guts to look at them!

After Vick there have been many dog fighting rings around the area/country that have been busted, and ZERO of them have made headlines outside a local rag. Maybe being a gifted NFL QB has it's downside, after all he was one of them million dollar jocks, one who just happened to be black---but I'm sure that had nothing to do with any of it!

Bring Em All Home Cole

November 21, 2010
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Oh Please, don't even try using the race card, that Vicks was persecuted becasue he was black. He is just another gifted athelete who threw is all away, doing dog fighting, and also pocketed a ton of money doing it. His color has nothing to do with it. We have had black and white atheletes, males and females who have strayed from grace, ending up in prison or ostrosized for their actions. Comparing it to US military bombing is just ignorant, why not just say what a good guy Vicks is killing dogs, instead of raping women. Instead he gets rewarded with another multimillion dollar NFL contract, and now seen as so valuable, we call him THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER? More valuable than others who show our kids what living the right way is, have values and standards, and that win or lose you stay on the straight and narrow. Ludicras in a single word, and comparing this by demonizing the USA is pathetic.

I think the issue here is the mentality of sports fans who care more about having their football games disrupted, then making a real example out of someone who should be a role model. He had his change to be an example, he does not deserve to be back on any pedistal.

November 22, 2010
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You see Greeney; You're more concerned with the plight of a pit bull than you are that of an innocent child, yet you have the audacity to call me ignorant. Look that word up Greeney and please apply it where necessary in the future, do so in the proper context. It'll make for a better point.

He made lots of money hosting dog fights! Laugh Really:

What he did was wrong ( I STATED THAT ) maybe you overlooked that as you skimmed the post.

I wish you had more knowledge--it would help the discourse tremendously.

Bring Em All Home Cole

November 23, 2010
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It's not been swept away for those who know how to research it, know what certain groups are really capable of.

Funny, seeing as how every football fan in the area that I know can only jabber on about how great of a player he is. When I bring up the fact that he's a dirt bag that put a bunch of dogs through Hell they always make excuses for him. "Oh, he's learned his lesson," or "Well yeah, but there's even worse people out there." Sure, as long as there's worse people out there it's alright to get away with things that seem less in comparison. "Oh well yeah, he raped five kids, but THAT guy raped ten! We should obviously overlook the first person since the other one is way worse."

Just because I make a deal out of this doesn't mean I don't care, or am not aware of, all the other atrocities that go on in the world every day.

He got off with a slap on the wrist and everyone is back cheering him on, and that pisses me off, just like a multitude of other things.

War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life

November 23, 2010
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Is this thread about the depravity that is dog fighting or the horrors wrought by modern warfare?

Given the OP and Vick's picture I would have thought it was the former but now Cole wants to somehow tie this to military errors that kill civilians.

I thought it was traditional for the author of the OP to stay on topic.

Math, science, history unraveling the mystery, that all started with a Big Bang.....BANG!!

November 23, 2010
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M.V. certainly is not the first highly paid professional sports player to sit back and look at his life and muse;

" I have a great job playing a sport I love for a living. They pay me more money in one year than many grand prize lotto winners get but once. I have a beautiful home, a beautiful wife, and people adore me. hmmm, what can I do to fuck this all up?"

Some push powder up their nose, some place bets on themselves, some beat their wives. Vick chose a novel avenue for this, I'll give hiim that. 😐

In Vick's case however he managed a come back. Many don't.

Math, science, history unraveling the mystery, that all started with a Big Bang.....BANG!!

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