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Bail Burden Keeps U.S. Jails Stuffed With Inmates
December 2, 2011
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This is a prime example of how one powerful business of the 1% is screwing everybody. Keeping the rich rich and making the poor even poorer, because when the poor can't afford to bond out of jail they lose their jobs, cars, and/or apartments/houses -- all over petty crimes. They are sometimes held in jails for 6 months up to a year before trial...before they're even found guilty of anything.

Bail Bonding is big business -- they make political contributions to politicians so they can stomp out good programs like pretrial release programs that could save taxpayers billions of dollars (it costs an average of $60 a day to house each inmate). This is utterly sickening. I already knew this was a problem, but didn't realize just how much these bail bondsmen have the politicians in their pockets...just like big oil corporations.

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http://www.npr.org/2010/01/21/122725771 ... th-Inmates

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December 2, 2011
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I imagine that the real estate value plays a big part in this, since so many people are unsidedown in loans, they have no equity to use as colateral. You don;t bailed out without solid colateral, usually its your home, or somebody elses.

In California, we are so overcrowded that they are letting people out with 1/2 sentences. Conrad Murray will only serve 2 0f his 4 years. Lindsey Lohan just order back to 30 days in Jail was released in 5 hours. The judge can sentence you to 30 days, but the Sheriff can let you out early depending on your history. No violent crimes gets you out real fast, to keep the violent offenders in.

December 3, 2011
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December 4, 2011
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Right now there's approximately a half million people sitting in jail for petty crimes because they can't afford to bail out. At an average of $60 a day to house these inmates, that's nearly 11 billion taxpayer dollars per year.

20 years ago this used to not happen. They'd just let you sign yourself out before your court date for petty crimes, as long as you weren't a repeat offender or didn't have a history of not showing up for court. But now, you've got this poor homeless guy with no criminal history, sitting in jail for 8 months for trying to steal $30 worth of blankets out of a store to keep warm. And because he didn't have the $350 to pay some greedy bail bondsman, he basically got an 8 month sentence over 30 bucks -- something that we used to only hear about happening in some Third World country, with some of the outrageous sentences they have for petty crap.

This is certainly not the same America it used to be. But what can we do about it? Vote out the politicians who are in office? Then the new ones will get offered the same money from these greedy corporations/businesses, and they'll take it. I feel the only way to take back this country is by having a revolution. Sad.

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December 4, 2011
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Maybe some of these people would rather be sitting in jail, with 3 meals, than homeless in an alley, picking garbage cans?

December 5, 2011
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"greeney2" wrote: Maybe some of these people would rather be sitting in jail, with 3 meals, than homeless in an alley, picking garbage cans?

I totally agree with EH's argument about the system..but I you make a good point, Greeny, especially at this time of year..when it's damn cold outsde in mnay parts of the country.

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December 6, 2011
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"greeney2" wrote: Maybe some of these people would rather be sitting in jail, with 3 meals, than homeless in an alley, picking garbage cans?

That particular guy was worried the whole time he was in jail about losing his station wagon and customers that he used to do odd jobs for.

I'm sure some homeless people want to be in there, but most of these people are working class, living paycheck to paycheck, and the only reason they can't get out is because they have no savings. And of course the recession has a lot to do with it, because now their friends and family can't afford to help get them out.

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December 6, 2011
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And what are they doing to "improve" the situation? They keep building bigger jails. Every year in America there's around 10 counties that want to build a new/bigger jail. It's no longer about keeping the community safe from the real criminals, it's about making money...like everything else.

All the greedy people of this country are dragging this country down into an abyss. Buncha f***ing vampires...sucking the life out of everything.

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December 7, 2011
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Good thread.........Something not touched on are the goods that prisoners are turning out. I'm talking big Government Prisons backed by Government dollars manufacturing products that are on shelves in your local cities and towns right now. All made by convicts being paid a few cents per hour.

That's why there are so many people locked away---------very very cheap labor trained to use very expensive state of the art equipment. They are into many types of business..............The big one in Colorado is blamed for bankrupting a catfish farm.............under cut the guys prices with cheap labor--------YES they sell to many many restaurants throughout the US.

I READ WHERE IT'S A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR Business with no end in sight as far as growth potential..........

Just imagine 100-200 lifers roughnecking in the Dakotas for $1.00 a day labor..........can you imagine the increase in profit margins for big oil?

Good roughnecks make 50-70-k per year!!!!!!!! Some near to 100-k................not to mention operators, mechanics, drillers~~~~

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December 9, 2011
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Government run sweatshops...paid for by the taxpayers.

Give it about another 30 to 50 years and this country will be like Nazi Germany, barring an apocalypse.

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