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3 die going over Yosemite's Vernal Falls
July 20, 2011
9:29 pm
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Tragic, all just to get a picture crossing the guardrails.

..Authorities: 3 swept over waterfall presumed dead

By TRACIE CONE - Associated Press | AP – 1 hr 4 mins ago
....tweet0EmailPrint......FRESNO, California (AP) — Three visitors were presumed dead Wednesday after being swept over a raging waterfall in Yosemite National Park, authorities said.

Witness Jake Bibee said the three people fell from Vernal Falls after they ignored warning signs and crossed a barricade to pose for photographs.

They were identified as Hormiz David, 22, of Ninos Yacoub, 27, and Ramina Badal, 21, all of California.

Yosemite search and rescue rangers were searching the Merced River downstream for the bodies.

Bibee described a chaotic scene when he and a friend hiked to the top of Vernal Falls Tuesday.

At first he saw a man on the far side of a safety railing next to the 317-foot (100-meter) falls holding a screaming girl while another young girl took their photograph.

Two others in their party then crossed the barricade to pose for photos on a rock 50 feet (15 meters) upstream from the falls. He said the woman on the rock slipped and the man fell in trying to reach her. Another woman also fell in trying to stop them.

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July 20, 2011
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One time, I went beyond the guard rail at the Grand Canyon. It was one of the stupidest things I ever did.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

July 21, 2011
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There's a reason there's guard rails.

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July 21, 2011
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Bionic this is a true story your husband will relate to. Many years ago in the early 60's, my sister returened to Buffalo to goto college, missing our old home front. A friend visited her in the wintertime so she took him out to Niagara Falls to see the falls. you husband may remember, in that period of time they were having crumbing landslides on the american falls, and had closed down a old elevator shaft, tourists could goto the bottom on next to the American side. My sister was in a small VW bug with the guy and with all the snow they got confused on what was the roadway and parking lot and what was a wide walkway, so the got onto the walkway in the VW. Before long a frantic cop stopped them and told them where they were and the VW was stopped on top of the old shaft, with only a layer of concrete covering it. I'm not sure if they ever were in real danger, but the cop convinced them they were, and told them to hightail it off the sidewalks.

July 21, 2011
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Some people should stay in the city................but such is life. How could such a thing happen in today's world?

Last week three locals got lost on a climb in Colorado...........had to call for help/rescue.....the local paper actually ran a large story on it..........The clowns said that they were going to do a fundraiser for the guys who came to save them..........seems the unit were all volunteers..

It's just something that I'll never ever understand.........sure accidents happen...twist an ankle, worse...break a bone.............but being ignorant of the dangers..........absolutely no excuse.

Human beings do some crazy stuff...............How did they come to be in the swollen snow melt river in the first place?

I read where 8 people have died in that park this year alone.........WTF..

Cole

July 21, 2011
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Cole out in California, people think that walking out into ocean waves in 2 feet of water isn't a danger, so get some false sence of security, they can wade out into a swift stream the same depth. It does not look like it is as swift as it is. What they do not understand is once you loose footing, you are part of the current, and it takes you twards the middle, where you can not get your feet planted. You are just a cork in the water. Doing it next to a falls was just stupidity and tragic, and when things went bad trying to grab each other, their fate was sealed. Other people were horrified, and one person said he could see the eyes of one, when he went over. Another little boy watched them go over too, so fast they were not real sure how many, but thought it was 3. One second you are here and the next second its all over. Many people walk that trail, the park service probably has a daily quota, and you need to register for backcountry hikes. They are well warned about staying on trails. Been a real long time since I went to Yosemine but they are alot more "No Nonsence" with visitors than other parks. Instead of warnings, you do get written citations for minor violations, so they lay down the rules pretty clearly. I'm sure you will see a bunch of wrongful death suits, but no way can you blame this on the Park Service or Rangers.

July 22, 2011
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I agree Greeney........I've been lucky in my life to experience many many greats things about the world as we know it, Nature and Geography are two of my very favorite things........I learned early, had a great couple of teachers...........that both can end your life if you choose to be careless and do not respect them.

That tragedy hit our paper this AM............Say's it was three but doesn't give much else which is probably due to the " we want you to know but don't want you to know too much bs " JMHO.

Anyway I think it's senseless, and feel for their immediate families...........Like to know exactly what went wrong, how they all ended up in the river/stream/...

I read where the snow pack is to blame for some 20 plus drownings in the Mountain states so far this summer...12 in Montana alone..........due to swollen streams which have become rivers...One guy currently missing and presumed dead.....Get this..........He lost an oar to his blown up raft and was reaching out of the craft to retrieve it when he fell over into the water............WTF.

Good points on the Rangers...............they don't play around and they shouldn't........They've a tough job, one I could never do.....I've no patience for ignorant ill informed tourists...........sorry to be harsh but I've seen what the have to put up with first hand in RMNP..............It's just insane how some people act/carry themselves ( I SAY SOME ) surely not all..........in our National Parks system.

Lot's of death's don't get much pub because the system doesn't want to deter visitors...but on the other hand they also keep quiet the numbers of severe injuries brought on by people trying to do way more than they are capable of...which is usually because they are clueless..

Like going for a day hike in the high desert and not taking the proper foot ware, flashlight, water ETC.......Anyway, anyone can make a silly mistake....usually from a simple brain cramp
or being in a hurry.but like you said...underestimating the power of Nature is gross negligence beyond a simple mistake.......

I'll always be thankful for learning that long before I turned 10 yrs of age.

Man getting swept over that fall.............scary scary scary!

Cole

July 22, 2011
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"Cole_Trickle" wrote: Some people should stay in the city................but such is life. How could such a thing happen in today's world?

Last week three locals got lost on a climb in Colorado...........had to call for help/rescue.....the local paper actually ran a large story on it..........The clowns said that they were going to do a fundraiser for the guys who came to save them..........seems the unit were all volunteers..

It's just something that I'll never ever understand.........sure accidents happen...twist an ankle, worse...break a bone.............but being ignorant of the dangers..........absolutely no excuse.

Human beings do some crazy stuff...............How did they come to be in the swollen snow melt river in the first place?

I read where 8 people have died in that park this year alone.........WTF..

Cole

It sounds like a heck of a park.
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you better be carful Cole, you sound like a guy that's just dying to go hiking and see what it's like to get lost in mother natures wonders, yourself
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July 23, 2011
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Yeah B----I'm like a cat-----------I should have run out of lives back in the very early 80's----------I put down still being here to simple good looks! 😛

Here's the skinny:

There were three----two male hikers and of course one female. Near to the fall the female wanted to wade in the river, so all three ignored the warning signs and climbed the railing. She set toe in water and was quickly sucked away, the two Males must have had their bravado kick in and tried to rescue the young lady.

Final score Merced 3 human's 0

What a sad thing-all so young------------yet hard to feel for those who ignore the warnings let alone have no real idea as to why they exist in the first place.

RIP>>>>>>>>>>>It sucks for their families.

Cole

August 2, 2011
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Another Yosemine accident. Woman falls on Half Dome.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/ ... 6705.shtml

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