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10th Amendment Proponents Deserve Cult Status, says AFL-CIO
October 25, 2010
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Union bosses are pretty vicious in their attacks against Tea Party members... coining phrases like "astro-turf" and "teabaggers." But they've expanded their attacks to included anyone who strongly supports the 10th amendment, labeling them "tenthers" who deserve cult status.

Gotta love those unions, eh?

‘Tenthers’ Would Abolish Wage and Child Labor Laws, Social Security, Medicare and More
by Mike Hall, Oct 21, 2010

Most cults are based in some sort of skewed spiritual vision or the worship of a charismatic leader, but there is a re-emerging cult that bows down at the feet of the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Many of them want to bring their cultish beliefs to the halls of Congress and are running for election this fall.

They’re called the “tenthers” and they say federal laws and rules like the minimum wage, Medicare, Social Security, unemployment insurance, the Department of Education, even child labor laws and a laundry list of other federal laws and programs are unconstitutional.

Their rationale—irrationale would be a better word—is that if a federal power is not specifically spelled out in the Constitution, well the government doesn’t have it, according to their view of the 10th amendment.

It’s a view that has long been discredited, but reappears from time to time, such as during FDR’s New Deal era and after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled school segregation unconstitutional in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education.

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October 25, 2010
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Bloody hell .. now I have heard it all .. Unions actually defending a standing Government .. Only in America 😯 😯 😮 😮

Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...

October 26, 2010
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States do have the right to pass a law so long as it doesn't contradict the US constitution but getting a state to not abide by federal minimum wage or the rest mentioned is unlikely to garner much support in that state.

The tenth amendment is no less "sacred" than any other in the bill of rights. Think of what would happen if they tried to amend the constitution to repeal the 2nd amendment or pass federal laws that go against it. There would be some serious outcry and protest. Federal laws that go against the tenth amendment are no more tenable than, say, gun restriction laws.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

October 26, 2010
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"The_Joker" wrote: Bloody hell .. now I have heard it all .. Unions actually defending a standing Government .. Only in America 😯 😯 😮 😮

Well, here in America it's pretty simple. The unions and the Democratic Party are in bed with one another. Unions make huge contributions to the Democratic cause and convince their members and meeting attendees to vote Democrat. In exchange, the Democrats pass laws to keep the union wages high and union bosses powerful and wealthy.

It's the same exact thing the Democrats hypocritically accuse the Republican Party of doing with large corporations.

Using Obama terminology.. the Dems can put lipstick on a pig but... it's still a pig.

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October 26, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: Using Obama terminology.. the Dems can put lipstick on a pig but... it's still a pig.

That belongs to Sarah Palin frostedman .. none the less it is true.

I support a Bill of rights .. we unfortunately do not have one in Australia, we are merely serfs to those who rule us.

This is the key reason why I support a "True" Republican form or government in Australia .. one day (soon I hope) people in Australia will wake up.

Remember remember the fifth of November
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October 26, 2010
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"The_Joker" wrote: [quote="frrostedman"]Using Obama terminology.. the Dems can put lipstick on a pig but... it's still a pig.

That belongs to Sarah Palin frostedman .. none the less it is true.

No, Obama is the one who said it...

Though he aimed the remark at Sarah Palin. 😉

I support a Bill of rights .. we unfortunately do not have one in Australia, we are merely serfs to those who rule us.

This is the key reason why I support a "True" Republican form or government in Australia .. one day (soon I hope) people in Australia will wake up.

I'd still much prefer John Howard to the leader we currently have.

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October 27, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: [quote="The_Joker"]Bloody hell .. now I have heard it all .. Unions actually defending a standing Government .. Only in America 😯 😯 😮 😮

Well, here in America it's pretty simple. The unions and the Democratic Party are in bed with one another. Unions make huge contributions to the Democratic cause and convince their members and meeting attendees to vote Democrat. In exchange, the Democrats pass laws to keep the union wages high and union bosses powerful and wealthy.

It's the same exact thing the Democrats hypocritically accuse the Republican Party of doing with large corporations.

Using Obama terminology.. the Dems can put lipstick on a pig but... it's still a pig.

That's great and all, and I agree with you almost wholeheartedly that Union Bosses do not have the best interests of workers at heart and are only interested in enriching themselves, while passing down "trickle-down benefits" to the workers they swore to defend against corporate ruthlessness, but this analysis would be more genuine if you also recognize that the two-party system (including Republicans) are beholden to a select few privileged interests.

The Age of Mammon indeed.

The Few assume to be the deputies, but they are often only the despoilers of the Many.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

October 27, 2010
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I did mention that the Republicans are accused of that, by the Democrats and hypocritically so.

However I will meet you in the middle. I'll admit that between the 2 parties, it's definitely a "pick your poison" scenario.

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October 29, 2010
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Wahoo! I'm in a cult and I didn't even know it! 😀

NICE!

Then again, It's not like I'm not used to those names. I was baptised Mormon. As my Grandma said, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will NEVER hurt me". 😎

One of these days I'm going to join a real cult... Laugh Why not? I keep getting told I belong to one...JK Laugh

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