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Running an internet web site, I get many pranksters, jokers, and liars write me and tell me they are from the government, they are going to kill me, or other rediculous claims, but there have been a few where it made me think, "Maybe this one is for real." I got a letter, and by request, I will call him Benjamin". Now, "Benjamin" wrote me in regards to my web site, telling me about the Snowbird Aircraft photograph I have on my web site. For those who are not familiar with this photograph, it is a supposed alien aircraft, and the picture is the craft mounted on top of a pylon, possibly at a Lockheed plant or even Area 51. Now, "Benjamin" told me that this was an X-151 aircraft from Project Torridor. "Benjamin" went on to say that you would never get a picture of an alien aircraft in the daylight.

This was "Benjamin"'s first letter to me, and being taken back by his knowledge about the craft, I still was not convinced of his claims. I made a FOIA request to the United States Air Force, requesting a picture of the X-151, unfortunately, I have been given no answer as of yet.

"Benjamin" worked for the National Reconnaissance Office. All "Black Projects" are compartmentalized, that way no agency can really know what the other is doing. He went on to tell me a bit about a base in New Mexico, in a mountain called Baldy. The base is 200 feet deep, and 30 acres square. There are 1,500 from another world working there. They come from a dead planet in the Cygnus Ra Star System. "Benjamin" worked there, and gave me the exact coordinates: 21hours 13minutes 52seconds D33degrees 10'. The aliens, in exchange for us giving them a place to live, they will help us advance to join some kind of an alliance of planets. They hope that we will be ready by the year 2025. This is where Project Tobacco comes in. Project Tobacco is a project to get the public ready for this event. It is done through movies, media, books, television, and magazines. Project Tobacco was given it's name because if anybody else would find out about it, it would burn up like Tobacco. So, on December 09, 1997, I wrote a Freedom of Information Act request to the United States Air Force, and also to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, which "Benjamin" told me was part of the project. I received 2 letters back, both dated December 29, 1997. The first was just an aknowledgment receipt. The second, was a letter starting off saying "This office is not a repository for UFO information." It went on to give me information on UFOs and Project Blue Book, and they attached a Fact Sheet on UFOs, a page I have been given many times. Confused, I checked back to my letter, not 1 mention of UFOs, aliens, anything for them to spark a response like that, NOTHING. Was this a goof-up? "Benjamin" was very surprised I got this response, and he told me it was definitely a mistake. Wright Patterson is still to respond, but what will I get, if anything, from them? Now I am getting very interested, possibly "Benjamin" is telling the truth. Or maybe the Air Force did goof-up, but maybe they just figured I was talking about UFOs? Highly unlikely, because not all my requests to them deal with UFOs.

Now, I am going to do an excerpt out of one of "Benjamin"'s letters, because I figure if I paraphrase it, I will just get the information mixed up. So here it is: "I worked on the Gravity Catapult. Einstein General Theory has a number of similarities to the Maxwell theory of electromagnetism. In electromagnetism, the basic source of all the forces is the charge in the electron. The charge generates an electric field. If you move the charge to form an electric current, the current generates a magnetic field. If you increase or decrease a magnetic field, that hanging magnetic field in turn generates an electric field. The same thing happens in gravity. The basic source of all the forces is the mass of whatever particles you are using. The mass generates a gravity field. If you move the particles to form a mass current, the current generates a new field that is the gravitational equivalent of the magnetic field. (an anti-gravity engine). We have it, have had it for several years now and I worked on it. Why do you think NASA is slowly trying to down-size. They keep calling for smaller cheaper engines and so forth. They know that the present form of space-flight as well as transportation here on Earth is about to change. They don't want to waste the money...but they have to or everyone will wonder why. The use millions of dollars of tax-payer money on useless stuff! This engine uses no fuel, has no sound and can never break. Since it uses gravitational fields for motion...as long as you have gravity, the engine will work."

Is this information real? Did the United States Air Force make a huge mistake by referencing UFOs on a Project Tobacco FOIA request?

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Response Back To The Air Force January 19, 1998

Ms. Rhonda M. Jenkins
11 CS/SCSR (FOIA)
1000 Air Force Pentagon
Washington, DC 20330-1000

Dear Ms. Jenkins,

I am writing to you in regards to your two letters, both dated December 29, 1997, in FOIA case number 98-0448. This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act/Privacy Act 5 U.S.C. § 552. I respectfully request a copy of all records pertaining to Freedom of Information Act case #98-0448.

Ms Jenkins, I am also confused about a few things, which I thought you could possibly help me out with. My initial letter, dated December 09, 1997, asked for documents pertaining to that of a Project Tobacco. This request was also forwarded to the office located at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Your response, started off by saying, "This office is not a repository for UFO information" and went on to explain Project Blue Book, also attaching a UFO Fact Sheet.

In my initial FOIA request, I did not mention UFOs. I was curious if there is a connection with UFOs and this Project Tobacco? I also thought to myself, that the United States Air Force has received many requests from me in the past. However, not all of them deal with UFOs. If you look back into your case files, I have also requested information on different military aircraft, other FOIA requesters and case numbers, and also just recently World War II documentation. I did not think you would just assume there was a correlation between the subject of UFOs, and my request submitted on December 09, regarding Project Tobacco.

I have had a similar scenario, where a FOIA office (at Wright Patterson Air Force Base) regarding a request I did many months ago, pertaining to Project Stork Status Reports. That office did not know what the project was about, after searching, and called to verify with me what the project was about. They did not assume, which is why I do not think your office did this… please correct me if I am wrong.

My question to you, is there a connection with the UFO phenomenon and Project Tobacco, to lead you to tell me that all UFO documentation is in the National Archives. Which, in fact, is not entirely true. There are almost 1,000 pages of documentation at the NAIC at Wright Patterson, which to my knowledge has not been transferred to the National Archives. This packet of information is available for a fee of a little over $120.

I am aware that under the FOIA, an agency is not required to answer questions. I hope that this one can be answered:

  • Is there a tie between the UFO phenomenon and Project Tobacco?

Please also be advised, that this is still a Freedom of Information Act request, and I respectfully request the following:

  • All documents pertaining to FOIA case number 98-0448
  • Also a FOIA case log for all FOIA cases from the dates of January 1, 1998 to date.

My status for fee's is academic. I agree to pay up to fifteen dollars for the requested records. Thank you very much for your time, Ms. Jenkins.

Sincerely,

John Greenewald, Jr.

Wright Patterson Air Force Base

Wright Patterson Air Force base was the second base that I sent this request to. Below, the first letter is the final response letter, which says they found no responsive records. The 2 below that were the ones that I received stating that Wright Patterson Air Force Base needed more time.

Wright Patterson Air Force Base

Letter dated 11 February 1998

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NAIC/SCVMS (FOIA)
4180 Watson Way
Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433-5648

John Greenewald, Jr.

Wright Patterson Air Force Base

Letter dated 14 January 1998

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NAIC/SCVMS (FOIA)
4180 Watson Way
Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433-5648

John Greenewald, Jr.

Dear Mr. Greenewald

This letter is in reference to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated 9 Dec 97. We received your request and assigned case number NAIC-98-032 to it. Please reference this case number when inquiring about this request.

Your request will be processed as a category 3 request for fee assessment. This will entitle you to get the first 2 hours of search and the first 100 pages of reproductions free. You will not be required to pay review charges.

A response will be sent to you by 2 Feb 98.

Sincerely

GERY D. HUELSMAN, TSgt., USAF
Chief, Freedom of Information
Information Management Operations

Wright Patterson Air Force Base

Letter dated 2 February 1998

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NAIC/SCVMS (FOIA)
4180 Watson Way
Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433-5648

John Greenewald, Jr.

Dear Mr. Greenewald

This letter is in reference to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated 9 Dec 97, our case number NAIC-98-032. An extension of time is required to search for the records you requested.

Sincerely

GERY D. HUELSMAN, TSgt., USAF
Chief, Freedom of Information
Information Management Operations



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